You cant really put the left wing SNP and Plaid in with the Right with nationalists though… still in some respects would suggest its 37% for the ‘protest’ and 63% for ‘not-protest’…
Not sure I’d put the Greens down as “far right” either, but there you go.
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I found it smoothed out the wrinkles
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Anybody believing that tomorrow’s vote is anything other than an effective second vote on EU membership is deluded. All this stuff about Farage being racist is irrelevant, as are any other party policies being touted. Remain keep banging on about how thick the voters were in the referendum and how they’d all vote differently now, well here’s the chance to prove it. There are two single-issue parties, the brexit party and change uk. Their stances are clear. Arguably, the only other parties with complete and widely understood clarity on their remain or stay policies are the libdems and snp, both of which are clearly perceived to hold entirely pro-remain views. So, let’s see how the remain/stay balance looks after tomorrow’s vote. If it shows a reversal of the referendum result then imho there should be a second referendum. If not, remain should accept that their position is not the majority view, even after three years of relentless pro-remain propaganda.
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Problem is without the main parties clearly indicating their stance how do you interpret the votes for Labour, and Tories? Thie votes will contain both remainers and brexiteers… and its why I any suggestion thesis a ‘in effect’ a second vote on Brexit’ is misleading IMHO… drop in the ‘protest at May’ and its even a less legitimate way of understanding how the public feel about a second vote…
The ‘public’ need to understand that ‘protest- voting’ over ran issue such at EU membership is not a good thing, because its a short term slap in the face over an issue tasty has much longer term consequences… apologies, but anyone voting in ‘protest’ over this issue IS being stupid. NB. That is different form saying they ARE stupid before some get upset, but its an emotional response as opposed to a logical one. By all means vote for Brexit parties, but do so because you believe in Brexit, not as a protest against Government handling of it, or 10 years of austerity…
It’s going to be a massive victory for leave(if that’s the only way we’re looking at it) and a second referendum is undemocratic and i believe would exasperate the ill feeling, so if there is one i will vote out.
My point about the Farage(city) party isn’t about meps, its where it leads. To think there are no future consequences if the racist party does even better than expected(i’ll go for around 50%) i find niave(no disrespect meant to those that believe otherwise), so to my view the only option is to spoil.
Either show us the Brexit Party’s catalogue of racist incidents or stop calling it a racist party.
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And you lot think you have trouble with isms’ and dodgy political alliances.
Poland is “interesting” politically, you’ll all be aware of the “msm headline” “right wing” government stuff, but deeper down …
Put simply, the UK is very much more accepting of Race & Sexual orientation. I could probably write a thesis about it, BUT at the very core is the fact that every Sunday, every village church has large numbers of the congregation unable to get inside and so broadcast Communion via speakers outdoors.
The Catholic Church is the centre of society whereas to a large extent, the majority in the UK has forgotten the Church as having a core value. I take no sides in that, just that IF you believe the Scriptures, it makes some acceptances very difficult.
Not least the abuse of kids by Priests, which causes outrage everywhere and does undermine the Church and by association, the belief of the masses.
Anyway, Politically, Poland is a mess at the moment and has Tusk yet to come.
You’re repetitive. We’ve already done this about Farage(the racist). Let’s move on to the other two of the original top three.
Catherine Blaiklock, what happened to her?
Michael McGough, what happened to him?
I’ll let you look it up yourself, as you seem woefully uninformed about these people. There is a common theme through all of them and nothing is ever done about it until it gets large public attention. Why is that?
Still things are looking up, Peter Reynolds is with them all the way(Unsurprising) and we all know what a jolly good chap he is. Here’s a little example.
"described Jews as ‘evil’ and suggested they should have been ‘left to their own devises’ during the Holocaust as ‘they’re nothing but trouble’.
Everyone involved with the RACIST party has a history of ******(see if you can guess the missing word) 
So you’ve no evidence then?
Very Goebbels, SOS.
Tell a lie. Make it big. Eventually people will believe it.
Perhaps you should join this so called racist party! 
Yeah, no evidence of racism from anyone in that party is there?
There’s definitely a Goebbelian trick going on, just some choose not see it.
The only reason for UKIP/Brexit party is that both Labour and Tories have no internal consensus on the EU… which is not surprising since most folks acknowledge the pros and cons, benefits/challenges and that is a fair position given the added rational for pragmatism ahead of idealism.
Those in the Brexit Party, as with UKIP are just opportunists - arseholes who recognised that after 8 years of austerity hitting the worst off in our society, there would be a ripe opportunity to prey on their fears and get the necessary backlash/protest against a system that they see has failed them… any one will do. The numbers who are ideologically opposed to the EU were never enough to get them over the line… People become more accepting of xenophobia and even racism when they are presented with ‘them or us… and whose country is it’ in times of stress and economic struggle… its happened in all countries before and is happening in many countries right now… and whilst the capitalistic ‘freedoms’ of the EU can in part be blamed for the banking crisis, The EU is not just a hotbed of pure evil nor as undemocratic as some like to continually suggest… I also doubt that Brexit would have been voted for had freedom of movement not been part of the EU policy… yet whilst there are cons to it from both a local perspective and from a ideological perspective re’ cheap labour’, the 'freedoms it gives as a by-product are genuine and yet we chose to ignore that aspect…
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That’s great until you consider the misconceptions of the other side.
Many, like yourself, who’ve never really had any prolonged contact with brown people, will conclude “Oh, this symbolic vote is a way of not being racist”
I say that’s fucking bollocks. You’re either racist or you’re not. I’d love to see you speak to my grandpop with that argument. He voted Leave. Will probably vote for the Brexit Party. It’ll come as a huge surprise to realise he’s a racist, but it’ll be fun.
I mean, he only had to endure 1960s and 1970s abuse accorded to non-whites at the time. He actually had to deal with a far-right with numbers. But what does he know?
Certainly not more than middle aged white dudes thirty years his junior that vote for symbolic reasons!
Arficus maxmus, as the Romans famously said.
I totally agree, I expect the % to be wider given the genuine anger out there over the handling of this.
I am disgusted with myself in having to vote for Farage in essence but who else is there? Who else is going to respect the vote? Democracy? Leave honour the vote and then campaign to get back in.
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People aren’t homophobic per se but are via their faith and religion, we don’t attack them for that or even question it really as it appears to be an attack on their unproven God?
Why?
Why are we afraid?
people are challenging the protesters outside the schools.
I liked this post because I agree with your general sentiment. We laughed at the Americans when their system threw Trump and Clinton in as the final two candidates.
I’m not a fan of Farage’s politics outside the sole issue of leaving the EU. The way UKIP campaigned domestically under his bailiwick was fucking disgraceful, especially some of the local leafleting ,which made the “Breaking Point” poster look like a Benetton advert.
Ir is utterly ridiculous that he leads the only party semi-credibly representing the majority position of the country.
We’re not laughing as much now, are we?
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People laughed when I said I was going to be a comedian.
They’re not laughing now.
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I’ve told this story before,but on one of my many meet and greets with my missus’ best mate’s new fella, we wnt to a pub that no longer exists. The Dog and Gun in Croxteth.
During our inaugural chat I quickly discover that he’s got one of those deep scouse accents.
“Women”, he says, “like two types of men. Comedians or cunts”.
“And I’m not fucking funny”
Of course, I’m giggling like a schoolchild at this point.
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