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A two week delay in the Netherlands- how many is that going to kill from Covid to perhaps save one or two from a clot - not that there is any proof that there is a link

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And wait for the Netherlands, and Ireland, to be surprised if / when they decide AZ is actually perfectly safe, and the population suddenly seems very reluctant. Ffs

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Just wait until they do the maths and they find out having the vaccine also prevents you from getting blood clots. :lou_facepalm_2:

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As the scientific community widely expected, but nice to see some data showing it.

Germany, France and Italy have now ā€œpausedā€ the AZ vaccine. This is not going to do anything for vaccine uptake and will cost lives.

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I am beginning to wonder if there is a political element to this. AZ have cut their deliveries again which means the govts across Europe are going to come up short with their vaccination programme - by ā€œpausingā€ the roll out that have an opportunity to build up stocks without taking too much political flak

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How very cynical of you! You’re probably correct.

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So, the girls’ school have reported a +ve Coronavirus test at one of their satellite schools.

Didn’t take long…

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Sputnik will get approved. Talks already underway to make in the EU

Lol - so a vaccine that is perfectly safe is suspended (again) whereas the EU is pushing through the Russian vaccine that even their own population is sceptical of

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Not going to be any easier to make than AZ/Oxford so the manufacturing will be subject to the same snagging delays as the AZ has been.

Dr John’s lucid and rational take on the maths of the anti-AZ bollocks…

Interesting info on Long Covid too.

A holiday update.
Tour Company ā€œincludesā€ the cost of your Covid Test on landing.
Keeps the certificate.
You can’t book any Tours without the Certificate.
You book through Tour Co.
Find out EACH day trip just cost your group $200 more than the locals charge.
BFF of Mrs P_F reduced to tears on 1st full day by group blaming her when it was their vote overturned her misgivings
Ah.
And relax

So when a senior Politician questions "the establishment " view is that a conspiracy or just an alternative theory?

Tell me this isn’t political

France’s decision to suspend temporarily the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine was taken in co-ordination with other European countries, French industry minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher told France Info radio on Tuesday.

EMA said its fine (for now - the EU may be singing a different tune on Thursday)
WHO say its fine
17m people have been jabbed and 37 cases of clotting have arisen - less that the norm
Pfizer and Moderna have similar rates
AZ reduced their delivery promise again last week

What’s the betting that the EU (under huge pressure from the Germans and French) declare Az not fit to be used. Given that both countries are well on their way to another spike - this pissing contest will cost literally 1000’s of lives and for what?

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Matt le Tiss makes me laugh, he is advocating we stop vaccinating people because there have been hundreds of deaths (within 28 days of getting a vaccine)…

Yet he is against the restrictions and other things that have been put in place to stop the transmission of Covid and reduce deaths…

The word irony is lost on him…

Turns out that there is a yellow card system where side affects and deaths are registered with the Government, who knew!! Anyway turns out that just over 500 people have died after getting a Covid jab, considering there have been 25m jabs given this is a very small %age.

Also, and this he also doesn’t mention, this figure is comparable with the amount of people who have died who haven’t been given the jab (whether this includes Covid deaths or not I am unaware)

Had the AZ jab two weeks ago. Had a DVT in my thigh 6 years ago. Eek! Fortunately take a daily blood thinner morning and evening so probably sorted.

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