Why is it ok for people on here to speculate what I write to fit their agenda, I was going to write Super Mikey loves sex with hairy grannies as I thought it would fit in with mine.
To comment on that shite the left aren’t responsible for it the arseholes who use religion as a vehicle for their hate are, people apologising for them and making excuses are simply cunts and wankers.
Just a little joke Baz, you know I love you really x
I’ve read this post a few times now. Someone help me out.
Forgive me if I’m being fucking stupid… is Jack suggesting that the Belgian security services may have deliberately killed 30 people to foment some kind of clampdown on individual freedoms?
I’m kinda confused.
He is keeping his powder dry whatever that means, I assume he believes it could happen, wackos, of which get Pap onto it he’ll phone that bloke out of enemy of the state who never looks up and he’ll sort it…
yeah, doesn’t look like a lot of powder has been kept dry there.
Lordy. Talk about walking between the raindrops.
I think the only sensible way to proceed is sticking by my principles.
Everyone on this site should already know that I am far more open-minded about different interpretations of events than most other people. None of you seem tp br particularly bothered by it, but at the same time, I have wilfully self-censored, and have always been circumspect of the treatment of the topic here.
I am also constrained by a few other matters.
Consequently, I’d like to explain my position in full. Jack Schitt is correct to list Operation Gladio as an example of co-ordinated, international, clandestine operation in which the state was turned on the people.
However, I remember that the biggest mistakes I ever made on TSW were a result of speculation vs commonly held reality. The day an atrocity occurs is both the absolute worst day to try to posit an alternative theory and the bravest day that you can actually attempt it (not that it’ll matter). Distance helps. We really don’t have that.
I’m conflicted right now. I have promised to uphold freedom of speech, yet I’ve also got to be wary of being criticised on other sites by posters that’d do us up by claiming that we’re propogating hateful nonsense.
That’s wide of the mark, imo, but there is a lot of wisdom in gathering facts before you declare, or even speculate. These events happened yesterday. There is doubtless a shitload of media that’ll sway your opinion one way or the other, doubtless a lot of it created for just that purpose.
It is far too soon to arrive at any significant conclusion, and while I acknowlegde that JS did not go full on, speculation at this point is premature, a fact that JS kinda acknowledged himself.
Dearest Barry, you asked:
Originally posted by Barry Sanchez
Can anyone who believes in all these conspiracies actually show where one huge one has been uncovered and the people admit it?
I provide you with a three-part BBC Documentary (not some random Alex Jones / David Icke reptile nonsense) in which dozens and dozens of former Heads of Intelligence Branches, CIA Directors, Prime Ministers, Commanding Officers etc, actually involved in the self-confessed “secret state-sponsored terror network operating in Europe” _ admit _ in personal testimonies to their involvement in the terrorist groups, and the things they had done.
Witness testimonies of Parliamentary Commissioners appointed to investigate the groups, and Judges who actually convicted some of the perpetrators, _ admit _ to the existence of the very things you asked for evidence of.
And your response is " not proven".
Never mind. I see you. Clearly you’re simply not worth engaging with any further on such matters.
Originally posted by TheCholulaKid
is Jack suggesting that the Belgian security services may have deliberately killed 30 people to foment some kind of clampdown on individual freedoms?
Jack is simply demonstrating that, based on the past evidence of declassified government documents, and the personal testimonies of Heads of various branches of Intelligence Services, Judges, Police, Commanding Officers involved in carrying out the Operations, ex-Prime Ministers etc. – that so called ‘false-flag’ terrorism has been proven to have happened many times before, and therefore, there is a possibility it could have happened again.
Jack is not saying it definitely did happen this time. As he has not yet seen any concrete evidence to draw that conclusion. But he is saying, based upon previous evidence, it cannot yet be ruled out.
In the BBC Documentary above, some of the Gladio Secret Service Operations carried out included acts of terrorism in Belgium (so it relates). This Gladio group (of joint-international Intel Agenies), or terrorists (as they are) admitted on film to carrying out these many attrocities “for the express purpose of creating terror and fear among society, so that they would run to their governments for greater security, at the expense of their public freedom”, this according to one of the chief proponents of the terrorism.
So, no. Jack is not suggesting these things can happen. Intelligence Heads, Prime Ministers, Judges, people who took part in the terrorism, previously bombed train stations and killed hundreds of innocent people etc – are stating on the record, that it is true. That they have previously done these things themselves.
Jack is simply passing their knowledge on for you to actually look into yourselves, and hopefully gain a more informed perspective to draw upon.
Jack’s nice like that. 
Interesting piece on how selective sympathy is fuelling groups like ISIS.
One must ask the obvious question. IF suspects are known to Police and IF there has been a shootout, how could 3 people escape from a shootout?
Not going to run down Jack’s conspiracy rathole but it does beg the question who is doing the hunting and whether this is a “Police” job or whether “Special Forces” should be leading from the front with the Police behind them.
Belgian brothers Ibrahim and Khalid El Bakraoui have been named as the two airport suicide bombers who blew themselves up eight days after escaping a shoot-out with police in Brussels.
The third member of the bombing squad - now known as the ‘Man in White’ - has also been named as expert bombmaker Najim Laachraoui, who is still on the run after leaving a suitcase packed with explosives and calmly leaving the terminal moments before 14 died at 8am yesterday.
Just 79 minutes later a suicide bomber detonated his vest on a Brussels Metro train at Maelbeek station killing 20 people.
Laachraoui was already one of the world’s most wanted men, having built the suicide vests that helped kill 130 in Paris last November and went on the run with Salah Abdeslam before hiding in Brussels for four months.
Abdeslam’s arrest on Friday is believed to have sparked yesterday’s twin terror attacks on the Belgian capital that left at least 34 people dead, and police fear Laachraoui could be planning another attack in Belgium unless he is found.
All of the men were ‘well known’ to detectives and had been on the run for almost ten days following a shoot-out in a terrorist hideout in the Belgian capital’s Forest suburb. They opened fire on police and fled.
Yet they still managed to find another address to stay, where they stored the explosives and guns used in Tuesday’s attacks.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3505610/Brussels-airport-suicide-bombers-Belgian-brothers-accomplice-white-remains-run.html#ixzz43i9A836X
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Equally, I became rather annoyed back at the time of the Paris attacks when a larger number of innocent civilians were murdered in Beirut by IS Militants yet there were few if any J’ Suis Beirut Tweets, Comments or Flags on Social Media.
The PROBLEM is that Turkey is actually Part of The Problem.
The "West still haven’t worked out that in a world of Grey then Allies can be on the side of an enemy. “The West” have deemed it suitable to pay arms manufacturers billions so that they can keep their Personnel safe and lob Stand Off weapons from afar at Villages in Iraq & Syria, let the actual FIGHTING is being left to a rag tag hotch botch of Volunteers, a mix of Pro & Anti Bashar groups and the Kurds
Turkey supports “The West” in bombing Syria & Iraq from Incirlk, “The West” arms trains and supports the Kurds, and The Kurds bomb Turkey.
And meanwhile Europeans do the whole Jack Nicholson Speech from Mars Attacks and ask “Why can’t we all just live in peace”
The Russians yet again came out last night with a statement that it is time “The West” woke up and I have to say that in the bigger picture, they do seem to be talking more sense. Which is really worrying.
Guess this sh1t will go on until November, Obama will never commit to what is really needed to stabilise Iraq & Syria - Feet on the Ground. Then it will be Trump’s “madness” vs “Hilary’s Handsoff”
Ok, I’m a little distanced from pap’s reputation for entertaining alternative interpretations for these atrocities, so I feel it’s OK to let the discussion continue at this level.
However, if this gets ugly (a la Boston bombing) I’d expect people to use their down votes for content they’d rather not see here.
Let the record show that pap avoided discussing conspiracy theories given an open goal.
Self-moderation, or has he been silenced by THEM?
Originally posted by @Jack-Schitt
Dearest Barry, you asked:
Originally posted by Barry Sanchez
Can anyone who believes in all these conspiracies actually show where one huge one has been uncovered and the people admit it?
I provide you with a three-part BBC Documentary (not some random Alex Jones / David Icke reptile nonsense) in which dozens and dozens of former Heads of Intelligence Branches, CIA Directors, Prime Ministers, Commanding Officers etc, actually involved in the self-confessed “secret state-sponsored terror network operating in Europe” _ admit _ in personal testimonies to their involvement in the terrorist groups, and the things they had done.
Witness testimonies of Parliamentary Commissioners appointed to investigate the groups, and Judges who actually convicted some of the perpetrators, _ admit _ to the existence of the very things you asked for evidence of.
And your response is " not proven".
Never mind. I see you. Clearly you’re simply not worth engaging with any further on such matters.
Originally posted by TheCholulaKid
is Jack suggesting that the Belgian security services may have deliberately killed 30 people to foment some kind of clampdown on individual freedoms?
Jack is simply demonstrating that, based on the past evidence of declassified government documents, and the personal testimonies of Heads of various branches of Intelligence Services, Judges, Police, Commanding Officers involved in carrying out the Operations, ex-Prime Ministers etc. – that so called ‘false-flag’ terrorism has been proven to have happened many times before, and therefore, there is a possibility it could have happened again.
Jack is not saying it definitely did happen this time. As he has not yet seen any concrete evidence to draw that conclusion. But he is saying, based upon previous evidence, it cannot yet be ruled out.
In the BBC Documentary above, some of the Gladio Secret Service Operations carried out included acts of terrorism in Belgium (so it relates). This Gladio group (of joint-international Intel Agenies), or terrorists (as they are) admitted on film to carrying out these many attrocities “for the express purpose of creating terror and fear among society, so that they would run to their governments for greater security, at the expense of their public freedom”, this according to one of the chief proponents of the terrorism.
So, no. Jack is not suggesting these things can happen. Intelligence Heads, Prime Ministers, Judges, people who took part in the terrorism, previously bombed train stations and killed hundreds of innocent people etc – are stating on the record, that it is true. That they have previously done these things themselves.
Jack is simply passing their knowledge on for you to actually look into yourselves, and hopefully gain a more informed perspective to draw upon.
Jack’s nice like that.
I said black operations have always gone on, but on this scale, deary me boys deary me, keep reading the novels. I dare say there are informants for us in IS killing innocents in Syria but giving us information, is that collusion or saving lives?
Wake up boys it really is a pretty shitty World.
Because they are looking like different reasons for bombing, was the Ankara bombing Kurdish freedom fighters? Why do we always get this comparison lark by some when this happens? The same happened with Paris and Beruit, the same ignorants never make the same comparison with atrocities in Africa as they probably dont know its going on over there, Kenya for example and the 147 that died, all blind agendas.
Hmmm…Jack also refers to himself in the 3rd person. Jack might be fucking mental.
Yup.
Garry Kasparov
12 hrs ·
Once again we face bloody terror in the heart of Europe. Brussels is also the “brain” of Europe, the de facto capital of the European Union. It is full of journalists and politicians and these attacks are guaranteed to receive a thousand times more attention than the hundreds of thousands of violent deaths in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and the other parts of the world being ripped apart in the power struggle between the modern world and those who would drag us all back to the Dark A…ges. As with Paris and San Bernardino, it becomes easy to ignore the direct connection between these distant places. Terror attacks, waves of refugees… the free world can continue to deal with these symptoms of Islamic radicalism and the brutal dictatorships that exploit it or we can go to the source. We can treat each new attack like any other crime or we can admit that the fingerprints at the scene can be traced to Syria, to Iraq, to Iran, to Saudi, to Russia.
There will be even more talk about national borders and walls now, with politicians and candidates eager to exploit these attacks. This won’t solve the problem, but, as Trump has shown, many people like a bad plan when the alternative is no plan at all. The most important borders in this fight aren’t national or even geographic, they are cultural and temporal. The modern world that values human life can defend itself or it can slowly lose both innocent lives and its identity to the thugs who do not. This isn’t one battle, it’s a strategic decision for the long-term survival of Europe and the modern global order. We can fight with soldiers at the source or we can continue to put our civilians on the front lines while our elected leaders make deals with the very dictators who promote terror.
From Ukraine to Syria and across the Middle East, the leaders of the free world have shown incredible tolerance for aggression and violence. The results of this policy of complacency and retreat are clear—tragically, horrifically clear. There is no simple “winning move” here. It will take time and sacrifice. It is a civilizational project, not merely a military one. But first it will require to courage to see that it is a fight that must be fought.
I’m not saying anything against Jack until we find out what powders he’s got, and what he’s planning to do with them.
I’m going for talcum or lemo.
BBC Breaking News @ BBCBreaking 16m16 minutes ago
Suspected Brussels airport attacker - named as Najim Laachraoui - has been arrested, Belgian media report
In a world where we have all seen Jack Bauer at work & the planet is covered by CCTV, the arrests have come thanks to a Taxi Driver rather than using CCTV to track them back to origin.
Okey Dokey
BBC Breaking News @ BBCBreaking 1m1 minute ago
Belgian media withdraw report that man identified as possible Brussels attacker, Najim Laachraoui, has been arrested
