I have said this before but those figures are so distorted to the amount of British born Irish who returned, they’ll have a British passport but ask them if they are British, I dare you I worked over there and there are 1000’s with British passports.
How did you find out if u can’t ask them?
You can ask me and I’ll ask them.
Ask me! I won’t say no. How could I?
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Ask me! I won’t say no. How could I?
Because if its not love, then its the bomb
I think we got an idea of the fear that Cameron has for Boris if that newspaper revelation has any truth in it. I wonder how it’s justified. Beyond personal appeal from a cultivated media presence, what does he have? He gambled when picking his mayoral people, so you’ve got to wonder what power he has within the Parliamentary Party.
What would they be called? Johnsonite and Johnsonian are front runners. Borisite is a bit too close to parasite. Borisions as a dark horse?
Nature is a language. Can’t you read?
Originally posted by @BTripz
That’s it, I’m all for a Brexit then, fucking foreign free-loading football mercenaries (there’s no synonym for mercenary that starts with F and makes sense)
Fortune-solidiers? Freelancers?
I find it rather amusing that Cameron believes Johnson’s second referendum idea is so laughable. After the experience of seeing the Irish reject the Lisbon treaty the first time around, I can’t imagine the EU not coming in with a counter-offer if the country votes no. Isn’t the standard form to keep voting until the desired result is achieved?
Absolutely this. This is why I just don’t trust the EU. You keep on voting until you arrive at the answer that the EU has pre ordained as the right one.
Surely even the EU wouldn’t pull this again?
Again the French and Dutch have voted no on things and Germany ploughed on ahead after a couple of years, their ageing population needs the workers and tax receipts.
Yep. This is exactly what will happen if there is a leave vote.
I’ve been reading a couple of background articles on the Brexit this morning, one relating to the strength of the pound, another relating to an anti-Brexit letter written by various members of the business community.
I’m not a big financial expert, but know enough about the system to know how crooked and arbitrary it is. The article on the pound’s strength was all about the risk to our credit rating, the disastrous effects it could have on SMEs, that’ll be unable to cope with currency shifts. Our shit could be cheaper to buy, but any shit we need to buy to make our shit could be more expensive.
The anti-Brexit letter is breathtakingly indifferent to the needs of people in general. We’re just numbers.
“Business needs unrestricted access to the European market of 500 million people in order to continue to grow, invest and create jobs. We believe that leaving the EU would deter investment and threaten jobs. It would put the economy at risk.
“Britain will be stronger, safer and better off remaining a member of the European Union.”
Having hit middle age, I’m well aware that it is very difficult to make decisions in the abstract, but I am also struck by how much bloody context there seems to be, or more accurately, how much context people want there to be.
Why can’t I vote no and not end up with Boris Johnson as a PM, for example? Why can’t I vote yes and still eke some genuine reform out of the EU?
My personal feelings for the PM aside, I think even the most ardent Cameronite would concede that the deal he got was poor, punitive and let’s face it, ultimately mirrored their anti-claimant rhetoric here. He hasn’t even done a good job on a personal level. We’ve had a couple of days of Boris being “out”, and his internal situation seems to be unravelling.
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Originally posted by @pap
I think even the most ardent Cameronite would concede that the deal he got was poor, punitive and let’s face it, ultimately mirrored their anti-claimant rhetoric here.
I don’t think that. I think one bro on here said + it was v.true (can’t remember who it was soz) that irrespective of what the deal actually was, Cameron bros would say it was good, opposition bros would say it was bad, and Bearsy would say it makes no difference to him cos he is Ivory Tower and non-affected by Brexits.
Pig fucker negotiated next to fuck all which is likely to become less than fuck all over time.
But hey, we need to stay in the EU so that we are in a stronger position for negotiation.
Working out well isn’t it?
I used to be very pro EU but today it looks to me as though we are hiding in a burning house because it may be raining outside.
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If anyone really expected Dave to come back with any profound change, then they are deluding themselves. You cannot align 28 national interests without a shit load of compromise to the extent that what you get is change that is so watered down to be worthless.
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So would you prefer Teresa May then?
*Siren sounds*
Goatboy political opinion klaxon.
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Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Originally posted by @Intiniki
Originally posted by @hoofinruth
A comparison of benefits in EU member states.
“Unemployed Britons in Europe are drawing much more in benefits and allowances in the wealthier EU countries than their nationals are claiming in the UK, despite the British government’s arguments about migrants flocking in to the country to secure better welfare payments.”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu
Good to know. Wondering where I will head to when BoJo becomes pm. I was going to put a smiley but not really joking about such awful possibility.
So would you prefer Teresa May then?
Ummm none of the Conservative party.
Interesting article albeit authored by a Euro sceptic.
See this kind of thing is helpful, you may not agree with the viewpoint, but it is presented clearly without resorting to hyperbole
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