I didn’t know whether it was or not, that’s why I didn’t accuse you, and I’m not acting persecuted, that’s not in my nature…but if someone has a problem with something factual (not my opinion) that I’ve posted, rather than just anonymously down voting my post, give a reason…I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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- I don’t believe anyone said immigration would be halted, I believe the term is controlled, and I see nothing wrong with that at all.
2)Yes!, the remain claims ARE scaremongering, there’s so many people pissing themselves atm it’s unbelievable…it won’t be easy, that’s life, but in my view we (not me personally) will be better off in the future.
3)And now I’m a ‘muppet’?..so we never played in Europe pre 1975?
This has more to do do with us being utter shit.
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@ Goatboy
Just utter shit at football?
Going on events over the last couple of weeks I suspect most of the world think we’re shit generally.
Hang on, we’re England, we’re good at loads of things, everyone in the empire says so…
Garden centres, we have some nice ones.
Finance - there are loads of Post Offices about, and some even open all day.
We make a good cup of tea.
The BBC, quality programming 24-7, no soap opera fillers or reality TV formulas for us.
Manufacturing - there is a great little craft shop in Polperro.
Royal occasions, no one does them better, and we clear up the horse shit afterwards.
And grass cutting - we are very good with lawn mowers.
Yes, the world really needs us and our top quality leaders and civil servants at the moment.
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Have you ever truly, fully believed a politician? Its points of views, elastic terms and down right lies. You’re not that wet behind the ears surely to bleat “they lied they lied” ha ha, Sadiq Khan break his election promise hours after being elected? You see through their bollocks or more fool you, until we can hold them to account more thats it.
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Haha…you know, you should write headlines for the Daily Mail with all our piss and wind: ‘you could not make it up’, is up there with ‘political corrrectness gone mad’ as the a mainstay of your pisspoor rhetoric… please use more cliches Barry… 
It is far too early to say that “remain claims” were scaremongering. From memory the scaremongering claims related to negative economic effects and a threat to national security from leaving the EU. I’m sure there are others that those who voted leave will remind me of.
The threat to security will be immediate after brexit. We will no longer have access to intelligence databases, there will be less co-operation between border forces and foreign police services in general. EU migration will continue under an EEA- deal, but we won’t be in a position to access EU based counter terrorism intelligence. This will also dilute our influence and abilities with other Western non EU countries security forces who have formed strong links with the UK and their intelligence sharing capabilities. Brexit will put a halt to this and therefore a brexit vote seems completely self defeating.
The economic effects of leaving the EU are only just starting. Sterling has fallen at an alarming rate and there are worrying signs of restrictions on foreign investment into the UK. The removal of passporting rights for financial institutions will probably force many UK registered banks to relocate elsewhere in the EU - Paris is already looking more attractive - and this will result in a serious cut to Treasury income for the future. As a nation, we imprt far more than we export and this is offset by The City being the biggest financial centre in the world. Love them or loathe them, the financial sector provide about 15% of UK GDP. If we lose even half of that, you can expect big rises in income tax and public spending cuts like never before. This is not scaremongering, this is fact and it’s playing out right before our eyes. Carney said this would happen before the referendum and it is starting to crystallise now.
Give it a few years and the full economic effects will be in full swing. Osborne has already ditched his attempts to balance the current account and cutting Corp Tax to 15% is a sure sign that the Treasury are worried like never before. Add to this a UK based recession and we could easily see a flight of talent abroad, leaving the UK (or England or whatever the UK will look like) with a serious problem for decades to come.
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Barry - fucking open goal mate, That is exactly the point. You are making my argument for us. Thank you. In a nutshell, we are indeed fucked of, not so much with those ‘fooled’ into voting Brexit because they could not ‘see through the bollocks’, but more so with those now trying to defend these ‘fools’, and worse still those doing the fooling… and even worse the idiocy that some actually think this is ‘democracy’ in action…
Also, Barry, when you were so full of spouting UKIP propoganda on SWF, etc, please explain, were you fully bought into all their views or just ‘keep the pound’? In your more recent papasweb posts you seem to have gone full 360 in terms of political view now arch defender of the left, so I am curious as to when you stopped following the EDL (or even sadder, pretending to), or do you still believe that in that shit to? - I only ask as you fucked up any credibility on anything political you might demand, because of your previous…
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Its alright though Numptyboi, we really showed those unelected beurcrats as we ‘took back control’ - surely you see we now have tehe power over our own economic destiny as leaving the EU means we are now immune to the vagaries of the global market, and Sterling will be teh most powerful currency not only on the planet, but when the aliens invade, in the fucking universe… Oh, er oops.
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I’d be interested to hear how we will be better off in the future too. Serious question Jet Sounds.
THE North-East and North Yorkshire will lose £665m of EU funding after 2020 when “Brexit” goes ahead, it was revealed yesterday.
Tees Valley alone receives the second highest level of funding in England, at £243 per head between 2014 and 2020, a total of £162m.
It turns out that these regions are expecting the UK to fund the shortfalls that the country voted for. 
Good luck with that one!
Does anyone honestly believe that a future government that has to pick up the pieces, will honour all those promises made by Boris and Nigel?
Some voters bought their future at a car boot sale and are in for a nasty shock when they get home and open the box…
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Yeah forgot that promise, thanks. The one where farmers and others in receipt of EU funding would definitely have that maintained by Gove and Johnson etc, conveniently overlooking that the Leave Campaign leaders were not in government and have no such power or funding.
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Always have been, if you recall there were a series of allegations about me on Saitsweb which in the end prved to be false, your allegations here are another example of smear lies and bolllocks, always be on the working left, never voted UKIP, tory or any other party, you seem to think the labour party in your political immaturity is all about pro EU and the like when the labour never has been like that at all, Benn, Skinner and even Corbyn are anti EU.
The EDL? Ha Ha I hate them and for what they stand you bell, I can’t make that any plainer, you must work for Murdoch ya whopper.
The adovocates of democracy have come out swinging this morning , pure raging and frothing.
Yawn.
I have never made any connection between party politics and Brexit other than with respect to the obvious UKIP. So not sure what point you are trying to make.
‘Proven to be false’, because you now offer a different perspective/say so? You posted links to the EDL and were vocal in support of UKIP… if you have ‘changed’ fair enough, but dont deny it… Whopper? you must work for Burger King…
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Sorry Pap, I’m a bit of a technophobe and my desktop doesn’t seem to work too good on this site compared to my chromebook
‘Leave voter in being a Luddite shocker’
He likes that word. Uses it a lot. Not sure what it means though.
Doubt he works for Burger King mind, more like Wimpy.