Originally posted by @lifeintheslowlane
Come on pap you are now simply kicking over the traces. I haven’t seen you deny the lies but you are denying the possible/probable effects. You can’t have both ways.
If I can’t have it both ways, then neither can the Remain side.
What do you think had more impact on floating voters?
A big red bus with an easily dismissable claim, fronted by a known charlatan with no chance of implementing policy?
The actual chancellor announcing that there would be huge tax hikes on the eve of the referendum.
I had to sit and suffer these fuckin lies being trotted out on social media on a daily basis by friends and family for a couple of months before the vote.
Leave voters have had to put up with rubbish before and after. I’ve seen a few people get frustrated on Facebook and throw a few expletives at Remain voters, but in general, I’ve seen nothing like the disrespect aimed at Remainers that is being doled out at Leavers.
We’ve been told that Boris Johnson or Michael Gove would be defining a post-Brexit settlement, yet they’re unlikely to be in the picture. Gove knifed Boris, and the Conservative Party are none too happy with him. His bid is dead; he won’t get the votes. We’re in uncharted territory at the moment. Article 50 not yet invoked, Tory leadership far from settled, same can be said for Labour.
It’s clear from the ensuing events that the government had no plan for Brexit. They simply didn’t believe it was going to happen, which is why we’ve had this long-grass action from Cameron which suspends the matter until October.
Just single line Trumpisms like “Take Control” and a picture of Boris…countless pictures of the fucking red bus…pictures of lines of Syrian Refugees…pictures of war graves with “Did they Die in Vain”. All trotted out to a retinue of other back-slappers who were also going to “Take Control”
When I finally decided to put more meat on the bones and supply links to independant websites like “Full Facts.org” not a single comment or “like” …they had all the “proof” they needed. They had gorged on the feast of one line rhetoric and had no stomach for a cold desert of FACTS.
Don’t tell us it had little or no effect on the result.
I’m fine with the idea of the NHS bus having an effect, but that doesn’t mean I’m prepared to accept what’s being implied by the Remain call for a re-run. “Only your side was stupid enough to get duped”. It goes both ways.
