But you said that replying to me making the point that the pound has dropped.
So are you saying that even though the pound has dropped 12% versus major currencies (no all attributable to Brexit, I’m sure) that it’s only the calm before the storm?
i.e. there is worse to come?
I don’t see how the “eye of the storm” comment relates.
Well the scare stories, the real scare stories, surround no deal.
The impact of no deal in the short term could be apocalyptic - which is why I can’t conceive of it happening.
We’ll likely get a rushed deal or an extension to our withdrawal deadline. But then again I am an optimist.
If there were to be a change of leadership in the Tory party then I could see some nutter breaking into the cockpit and steering it into the ground.
Perhaps no deal but with some ability to trade on EU paperwork for goods and services - but without access to EU quotas and tariffs? I think this is what the application to the WTO is about.
Who knows?
The impact on trade on the basis of an ‘agreed’ deal just can’t be estimated at the moment because we don’t know what shape that deal will be.
But if we negotiate anything like a decent deal that gives us the opportunity to screw the EU on trade with the RotW then I’d expect to see punitive measures.
Anything outside of win/win, or more likely given human nature win for the EU/lose of the UK isn’t likely to be acceptable I guess.
My concern is that very thing… you have to hand it to Boris et al… much smarter than May and the Tory remailers… they cant lose in all this. If a deal is done, they will still be able to pick holes in it and challenge it as "brexit light’ ‘ignoring the will of the people’… blah blah… no deal and its been better for them highlighting the ineffective leadership and taking over in a challenge… Whilst it pains me to repeat it, the likely shit storm economy is also what they want as they know they stand a better chance tan Jezza of being seen as strong and effective leaders ‘in a crisis’… history has a number of precedents where the ‘people’ turn to more authoritarian government in times of recession/depression…Whether 1930 Germany and US, to BNP in local government in Oldham etc…
Bad news, it’s going to be no deal. This has been the plan all along. Can’t have the bonfire of red-tape if there’s any kind of deal. So wave bye bye to the NHS as that deal has already been done(just waiting to announce it).
“Trump confirming no deal will be done with Britain whilst it utilises EU safeguards”
Has no media been following the trips and meetings.
Eye of the storm is the wrong metaphor here really as implies we are already half way through the turmoil … that we have had it rough, now a bit of calm but more shit to come…
The calm before is more apt… because the 12% value loss of sterling although shitty is IMHO still minor to the shit that is coming if no deal is made, or even with a deal if there is a shed load of red tape and that makes it all more complex as opposed to just a small tariff which work each way…
I actually think the exhibition example is a good one… because such a firm manages perhaps 10x the number of exhibits/service in the EU than the total in the UK, so if EU trade is lost due to costs and time issues, it has a much greater impact on a UK firm than on an EU just losing trade in to the UK, when they still have umpteen other EU markets to work with… This is the problem with the idea that we wont lose trade because The EU needs us as a market… I would not be so cocky, as for EU firms we are just one market and they can compensate much more easily… for our exporters its probably a much larger chunk of ether business…
Go back to page 10 or whatever, where I believe I talk rather eloquently that we will just end up sucking a different cock, only this one will be more rancid with the stench of corporate corruption of politics, than anything the ‘undemocratic EU’ can sling at us… US Government IS that whole ugly business… But its OK, the EU has gone all right wing so better for us to trade more with markets taht are not full of white supremacists and nazis… oh…
The eye of the storm is very dangerous as it fools people into thinking the storm is over and out they come to inspect damage…and then the second half of the storm kills them.
Loose metaphor/proverbs sink ships
But if it’s EVERY European delivery, not just those to Switzerland, that will make massive differences to his businesses. It will also affect those that work for him, the lower paid blue collar workers.
Here’s another worry - The Uk potentially revisiting situations like the cod-wars in the name of Britain first?
Is this a taste of us reverting to the bad old days if Brexit actually happens?
Perhaps I’m being paranoid but this happens conveniently when Brexit needs a boost? Get the jingoistic blood flowing eh?
I’ve never had a scallop. True story.
Meant to post about this the other day.
My thought was the opposite. How good could the EU have been if the UK had actually bothered to take an active interest in shaping and driving policy rather than bring a faded colonial power with delusions of grandeur?
Maybe those in power with vested interests in not doing so are the ones driving Brexit?
Am I really doing them a disservice? Down the line I hope (dare I say believe) they’ll be shown to have sold-out the UK for their fist full of silver.
Overpriced foreign French muck apparently
May being very evasive when asked about whether Brexit would make then UK poorer.
Apologies they it’s The Sun but it’s the only place I could find the video.
Also reported here they she refused to say whether she’d vote for Brexit in a (hypothetical) second referendum.
Story about May’s lack of commitment to Brexit also being covered by Sky News.
Perhaps being internet-married to @pap for so long has turned me into a conspiracy theorist, but The Sun, The Express and Sky all carrying negative stories about May’s handling of Brexit might suggest were about to have a leadership challenge.
Perhaps she’s just shit at her job?
To be fair to May, she been consistent.
The article i posted earlier, suggested next month for Pfeffels coronation.
You’re right. I’ve never had them.
But we know it will - everybody knows it will - it’s a no-brainer. Brexiteers are happy for people to get poorer if it means we don’t have to abide by those pesky EU laws.