Conflicted on James O’Brien. He is brilliantly clever and very entertaining, but uses shock-jock tactics and rudeness to deal with people that don’t agree with him.
However, on this he has a point.
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Fuck you all and your project fear… who gives a fuck about the impact - we will have our country back… remember, this is an opportunity to build Britain to core British values, with British Government and British things to eat… Who cares if it takes generations to build Britain to this beautiful britishness… fuck those who don’t want to listen to the voice of the people, dont they believe in the peoples democratic right to fuck their lives up for themselves instead of blaming Government all the time? Anyway Boris, Micheal and our friends , we will be alright, unaffected by whatever happens - having hedged investing our portfolios appropriately and who gives a fuck about the poor anyway, look at the benefits, Poundworld may rise from the ashes, selling British shit instead of foreign shit.
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James O’Brien is so far up the establishment’s backside that he’s forgotten where he begins and the colon ends.
You can’t really have a second referendum without destroying any remaining faith in British democracy. If a party goes into a general election, as Cameron did, promising a referendum and gets voted in off the back of that, fine.
Even if a party went into a general election saying “there’ll be no referendum; we’re just rejoining”, that would be fine too.
What is not fine is having a second referendum without the slightest credible bit of demographic information to do so, such as YouGov polls, featuring sample frames of below 5k, and the politically inclined by default.
We had the referendum. All the major Remainers told us it mean losing access to those institutions, be it the single market, Euratom or whatever. We know what kind of Brexit people voted for, the only kind that exists.
Anything else is some form of Vichy Britain which will no doubt be celebrated by our domestic brand of Quisling.
You forgot to say anyone who disagrees is a traitor.
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What the fuck is the point of a second referendum
If leave wins, remainers will still refuse to accept it and try everything in their power to frustrate it
If remain wins, brexiters will refuse to accept the result and try everything in their power to frustrate it.
It solves nothing
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To be honest I would accept a demographic decision made by informed people who had been given a real insight into the implications of either option - We often confuse the value of a principled stance with the shit reality this brings to folks lives. My issue with Brexit is that it will NOT make millions of Britains better off, it will make millions of Britains worse off, yet many who say they stand for the poor, seem happy to sacrifice their wellbeing on the alter of principles and ideology…
Real life is not about adolescent political games… its IS about compromise. A recognition that as unpalatable some actions and policy may be, it is often the lesser of evils with respect to the less well off…
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I vacillate between being really worried and resigned to the inevitable nightmare we’re inflicting upon ourselves. I really do find the prospect of it all incredibly depressing. Stories of food and medicine stockpiles just add to my worst fears.
It seems to me good jobs are going to disappear, the economy will more than likely tank and the brexiters will be nowhere to be seen 
I need some random trivial stuff to distract me or else I’ll end up dwelling on the awfulness of it all.
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So in theory, you will be happy with what parliament serves up - as they should be informed people, given real insight
Are we actually getting blue passports? If so, when and will we have to pay? How long will my red passport be valid for? Someone needs to tweet Mrs May and get some answers.
I’ve also started stockpiling tinned food and powdered milk and eggs. Does anyone have any good recipies involving shit ingredients?
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Mix powdered milk with 2 egg yolks and 1 tin of condensed milk, lightly whisk then pour down throat. No cooking time required 
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I am stockpiling continental/European wank mags as these will be like gold dust, mark my words, I’ll have wankers queuing at my door ready to part with wheelbarrow’s of cash (forget Vichy, will be more Weimar…)
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Good try CB, but no, because this was in relation to about the Brexit v Remain choice, not the type of Brexit
The passport will be blue. The ration book will be red. You will have to pay for both.
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Is it the yolk that it’s powdered in powdered egg? If so, I’ll be all over that yummy recipie, @gavstar. However, If, as I suspect, I’d be unable to mix yolks to my powdered milk because there aren’t any yolks to be had, then I’ll come looking for you and I’ll shove your recipie up your arse. I’ll also milk your balls so I don’t have to use powderd milk for a day or so.
My question about the passports was serious. Are we actually changing etc?
The whole egg is powdered, so powdered egg includes the yolk.
I believe we will be changing yes, the passport tender was won by a French company IIRC (which caused a ho ha in itself).
I believe that you will only have to change passport when it comes to renewal time so, yes, you will have to pay for it…
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Just to be clear I’ve been talking about a referendum to decide what shape Brexit we want as opposed to whether we want Brexit.
I just can’t see that many people are happy with the outcome at the moment.
I’m amazed that people who voted Brexit (and assumed that this would mean hard Brexit when in fact it means soft-ish Brexit) are content to let Mrs May run with her definition.
I’m also surprised that these people aren’t petitioning for such a referendum - given the once in a lifetime nature of the vote they took.
Conservative MEP David Bannerman today called for a new Treason Act to include “extreme EU loyalty”, so i’m sure he will meet with Pap’s approval!
It is becoming increasingly certain that there will be a no deal Brexit, the swivel eyed hardline Brexiters will make sure of that. It has been their plan all along, their reaction to the so called Chequers agreement makes that obvious.They know full well that the EU negotiators will never agree to their clauses, which is why they insisted on them. I think May knows this too, although she is regarded as a remainer i have my doubts about that. Meanwhile the ‘true believers’, Rees Mogg, Redwood and co and their billionaire backers are only concerned about getting out before the upcoming EU regulations regarding money laundering and offshore investments comes into force. That is what drives them, along with all the billionaire press barons and dodgy ‘investment bankers’. These hard right wingers don’t give two fucks about how it will affect the overwhelming majority of British people, they are wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice, it won’t affect them one iota either way. People like John Major, who i certainly hold no brief for but i think he is basically a decent man, should be listened to when he warns that the poorest will suffer the most. But sadly, the so called 'Lexiters", those on the left who have convinced themselves that walking away from the EU for ideological reasons will benefit the so called working classes, are acting as useful idiots for the hard right, bordering on Fascistic Brexiters. IMHO.
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Thank you. I do remember the French company bit now. So, it’s all happening. Exciting stuff. Will I have to send my passport to France? I don’t speak French so this could be a challenge bigger than Brexit itself!
If powdered egg is all of the egg…how the fuck am I supposed to mix my powdered milk with yolks when all I have is powdered egg, @gavstar? You’re an idiot. Watch your back.
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