So the UK is a woman?
Yeah but her relatives keep coming to stay, and never fkn leave
Yes, but her relatives are great. When theyâre here they do loads of jobs around the house which would otherwise not get done. Certainly better than the lazy teenager up in the attic room who sits around wanking over porn all day.
Callin Bear a teenager is a bit of a stretch.
Unfortunately the relatives give their chore money to their parents so their parents can payt for the upkeep of their house whilst not paying for the upkeep of this house!!
(Iâm crap at analogies, no really!!)
More accurately, the relatives donât ask for as much pocket money.
What a laugh, eh? Youâre on this forum making the case for low wages.
The Matrix has you, my son.
I think you need to have a look at your maths Bob.
2016/2017 figures show that after the rebate, EU spending and EU grants we only paid ÂŁ8.6bn. No where near the ÂŁ18.2 you are offering by using the ÂŁ350m/w figure. You also seem to be offering this in perpetuity. I think you would cost the Country a lot of money, although 48% of those that voted would love you
Whilst we are talking figures, remember that widely ridiculed figure ÂŁ4300, that leaving would cost each family. Itâs already happened. Seems whoever wrote that for the little Eatonian shit knew what they were talking about(if a bit optimistic).
ÂŁ488 per worker + ÂŁ868 per citizen. Average household 2 workers plus 2 kids = ÂŁ4448
Project fear or project reality?
Well, seems plenty of my EU colleagues are able to earn plenty for their sought-after skills, as are the many doctors and nurses we rely on.
How about that Sonny Jim?
Here is a thought. Letâs grant work permits to doctors and nurses. We could actually do this
The EU brought in laws that stopped us employing Doctors and Nurses (and other trades) from outside the EU (unless we could prove there was no-one in the EU that could do the job).
So, as a trade off, we give work permits to EU nationals (good suggestion @cb-saint ) and also get in them pesky non-EU nationals as well.
Win/win
I know @areloa-grandee likes to talk about the EU having no borders but, in reality, if youâre from outside the EU you have two hopes, and Bob isnâ't one of them.
At the expense of domestic nationals that could be earning plenty, but arenât.
At the expense of apprentices that could be getting trained, but arenât.
At the expense of their own compatriots, whoâve lost many of their best people to the UK, and may never get them back.
Last time i was in hospital there were loads of Filipino nurses.
Yeah, they taking our jobs. But with Brexit, theyâll all go homeâŚ
Oh.
Did the Chong Hua hospital clear up your, ummm, condition??
Day turk er jeeeerbs!
Filipinos in the UK are either citizens or Tier 2 migrants.
Companies have to pay ÂŁ1000 per head for Tier 2 migrants, and cannot sponsor them for any longer than five years.
Might I gently suggest that sir includes some facts in his next claims? Theyâve been known to help
Yes, I understand all about Tier 2 migration. How does that alter what I (flippantly) said?
All youâre saying is that we have a load of Filipinos over here working in the NHS (taking our jobs) and, not only that but their employers are paying an additional ÂŁ1000 for the privilige. And Brexit will have no effect on that. Instead of having Portuguese or Spanish nurses over here, weâll just have even more Filipinos and Indians (or whateverâŚ).
Or weâll restore the nurse bursary, perhaps pay them a bit more, make the profession more attractive.
Perhaps Iâm over-simplifying, @bathsaint , but if labour leaves in droves, then the price of labour will go up and the country is going to have a strong incentive to develop domestic talent.
This is really simplistic, basic thinking.
I canât actually see anything wrong with it, nor point to reasons as to why supply and demand donât apply to the labour market as to all others, but its really simplistic and basic thinking and as an enlightened, staunch Remainer, I can only tell you that youâre very wrong and stupid.
I got an inkling of how wrong I was on this issue when it transpired that no-one was able to respond to it
Thanks for the grim confirmation.