:brexit: Brexit - The Ramifications

I’ve just got the hang of being a thick racist and now I’ve got to study contract law.

I’m a busy fucking goat ya know. :lou_angry:

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Jesus Christ, quit it with the Vichy slogan will you. We get it, we got it first time round (it wasn’t very good then), and we understand you like it. You just sound even more mental parroting it at every conceivable opportunity.

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And with this post you have nailed your colours to the mast. You are aligning yourself with the tiny minority of true rabid Brexiters, Farage and his ilk who really do seem to believe that there is unfinished business with Germany. Almost like religious fundamentalists, although there is no evidence whatsoever that Brexit will work or make the vast majority of us better off, if you point this out you get a barrage of abuse and get told that if you don’t go along with this flawed ideology you “lack grit”, and are the equivalent of Nazi appeasers in France in WW2. Remainers would all be lining up at the top of the White Cliffs waiting to shake Mr Hitler’s hand, unlike the brave Brexiters who would be resisting the Hun like true Englanders. Perhaps Brexit makes your chest swell with pride and you all feel like empire-builders again. This is the 21st century FFS, just what is it with all this WW2 nonsense? “I can’t help feeling that Hitler could have won the Battle of Britain with paper fucking aeroplanes if this piss-weak cowering bunch of Remainers were those asked to defend these islands back then”. You are coming across as a very poor parody of Captain Mainwaring, can you not see this? Have you no self awareness? It is infantile nonsense. And quoting Jacob Rees Mogg in support of this nonsense, well, you are really letting the cat out of the bag now. Another of Jacob’s recent quotes informed us all that the rise in food banks was “uplifting” because it showed what a good and charitable country this was. ‘Gawd bless yer sir, you’re a true toff’. "Thank you young Pap, now fetch my plus fours’!

Most people voting to remain, i would submit, made their decision based mainly on the economic aspects, and social policy implications of a Brexit, sooner or later the Brexiters are going to have to focus on these too. For the reality surely is that the price of Brexit will hit the overwhelming number of us in our pockets. Only the extremely wealthy will likely be able to avoid this. ‘For the few, not the many’. How’s that for irony Pap! Surely all but the most ardent rabid Brexiter must look at the ongoing Brexit pantomime and see where it is heading. It is beyond parody, a slow motion sleepwalk over the cliff to disaster. That you are reduced to comparing realists pointing this out with Hitler appeasers nearly eighty years ago, quite frankly, shows the increasingly desperate paucity of your arguments. Many of us appreciate the diversity, hard work and culture that most people from Europe bring to the UK, enriching us socially as well as in the workplace. Many of us think that EU concepts of respect for others, free trade, decent social benefits and care written into law, peace and friendship between European countries, are decent, right thinking ideals. Many of us do not want to be a part of a racist, xenophobic UK, cut off from the rest of Europe, banging on all day about ‘furriners’ and the paranoid perceived German led injustices against us. Which is all your lot appear to be offering. Intellectually bereft.

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As the soviet are only here to make suggestions… may I make a suggestion lord commander pap? A new profile pic, even if it is only for 48 hours.

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Scrap that… new one. This one has true grit and British bulldog spirit. Come on chairman pap, you know it makes sense.

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Yeah, right.

You’d think I’d possibly get more animated about having a poster of your ilk, and by that I mean “decent”, penning something like this.

Thanks to the referendum itself, it’s water off a duck’s back. As stated before, the Remain crowd have spent over a year casting aspersions on the motivations of Leave voters.

Do I believe that Remainers are all Vichy Englanders or cowards? Nope, but it’s been fucking funny and quite informative watching the fragility unfold, and watching those caps fit so well.

This is not the first time Remainers on this site tried to smear us with accusations of nationalism. It is the first time that I’ve bothered sustaining anything as fucking ridiculous in reverse.

The results have been interesting. Quite how the fuck y’all ever expected to hold the EU together when you can’t cope with competing opinions is beyond me.

Fuck that.

I’m not being tied to his views on West Ham.

Come on pap, you know that last post would be a lot funnier with an Alf Garnet face in the profile box.

LET’S MAKE BREXIT FUN AGAIN!

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Forget West Ham, comedy first. I will show you.

Your words, Alf Garnett’s face.

**Thanks to the referendum itself, it’s water off a duck’s back. As stated before, the Remain crowd have spent over a year casting aspersions on the motivations of Leave voters. **

Quite how the fuck y’all ever expected to hold the EU together when you can’t cope with competing opinions is beyond me.

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Meh. Nuttall would have said “youse”, not “y’all”

Not if he was pretending to be from Alabama like you were Br’er pap.

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Look, the man has enough trouble trying to hit what he thinks is “traditional English gentleman”. Let’s not overload him.

What a load of old pony.

Free trade, lol. The EU is protectionist, always has been always will be. It’s also laughable to suggest it’s a hot bed of tolerance, decency and respect for each other. Some of the Eastern Europeans are the biggest racists going. It’s a bosses club, that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. I pity the poor little snowflakes who don’t seem to understand that basic fact. They’re being played for suckers by big business, technocrats and soft arsed soppy pinkos.

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Pap and Duckhunter do make strange bedfellows… although not sure how ‘soft arsed pinkos’ will go down … mind you tha last time I saw a such a comedy rant was General Cheeseburger back in the 80s… (although given the US references, it could be strangely prescient)

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Might be abit lazy but…

_ What a load of old pony. _

_Free trade, lol. The UK post brexit will be protectionist, and always will be. It’s also laughable to suggest it’s a hot bed of tolerance, decency and respect for each other. Some of the UKIP, EDL, BNP and other many who support their views are some of the biggest racists going. It’s a bosses club, that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. I pity the poor little snowflakes who don’t seem to understand that basic fact. They’re being played for suckers by big business, technocrats and soft arsed soppy pinkos. _

What is most amusing is the asumption that remainers dont know about all that is wrong with th EU, the challenges posed by the far right, especially in regions post Societ oppression at a time when cultural clashes through immigration raise tensions, or even the gross injustices of a system designed to prop up the status quo and inequalities between the haves and have nots…

Its the fact that Brexiteers somehow believe that we only have the same issues in the UK because of the EU… and that now that we will be free of those nasty/nazi cunts the UK will become a glorious land of milk and honey.( Conveniently forgetting our own aversion to immigrants) In addition, we can bang on all we like about how shit the EU is, yet we did fuck all to improve it in 40 years of membership, because we never committed to being an influence within it. Remainers dont see our exit as some moral victory for distancing oursleves from the evil twats in Brussels (evil twats who the NEW Britain TM will be happy to do business with despite them being these racist cunst?- tehen agan we dont ahve many morals when it comes to trade as arms to Saudi shows)

Remainers just see it as even more important given these uncertain and politicaly and culturally dysfunctional times that we should be more integrated, using our influence to effect change - its a time when unity of purpose economically and socially is even more important. That is not some pinko shit, but a practical reality. The rise of the right and nationalism is directly related to economic uncertainty and inqualities, not just in the EU, but here as well… something most Brexiteers seem still to be in denial about.

So go on believing Remainers are ignorant and blind to the serious challenges of Europe and the EU if you wish. It goes well with the myopic and ignorant vision that the UK is immune from the same issues. But for most Remainers I know, they elieve that we are more likely to come through this if we were more influential at the heart of the EU.

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In 1997, I called someone a soft-arsed public school bag o’ shite. The bloke descended four floors to attempt to lamp me and got beaten to fuck for his troubles.

I am sure his parents think that was good value for money.

:lou_eyes_to_sky: WTF? Just what are you going on about? Are you proud of beating someone up now? Who are you trying to insult with that?

Throughout this debate,one common theme i have presented was that I respected your POV based on you sticking to principles, even when I could not agree with you. But recently you are getting progressively more riduiculous… you are obviously not a twat, but why are you posting like one?

The down vote is for your posting about beating a bloke up… nowt to do with Brexit opinion

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How bizarre.

Hmmm, and exactly how much influnce has “little” England had over the last 20 years in the EU? If you genuinely believe that France and German are goign to suddenly accede to our wishes then you are as myopic as the “little Englanders”

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That is the core issue - We have very limited influence. If we did, i suspect the EU would be more like a free trade association rather than a federal union. Now if the UK government could guarentee that there was no more further political union and ceding of powers, then may be I could have got on board the remain train, albeit with some lingering grave reservations. The problem is the govt nor the EU can guarentee this and in fact we already have a EU defence force being born when we were told this was “pie in the sky”. To stay in the EU was not a vote for the status quo, it was a tacit approval of a United States of Europe, and that was something I wasn’t prepared to accept.

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