One thing the Government could do to alleviate some of the uncertainty and worry would be to release all those studies it has commissioned looking at the probable impact of different Brexit scenarios on the economy.
Now this is something tangible I can get behind. I can write to my local MP asking that pressure is put on the government.
According to this article, there is a good chance they’ll be released if Labour really push for it. The reports apparently cover 88% of the economy.
I doubt that the economic studies are worth a wank tbh. If government economists could correctly forecast economic impact of Things, we would have a Good Economy. Stands to reason! I have more faith in Mark Lawrenson match prediction srs.
Folk across the Table? What Hammond called the enemy? The people I like to think of as our future partners?
Well, surely it would allow organisations to plan a little bit more effectively. It would also maybe shut the people up who say ‘let’s just get out’ and ‘no deal is fine’.
If anyone really thinks that our economic position has not been researched by the EU and as a result believes we have some exclusive secret squirrel info that puts us in a stronger position, they must be the Lord Mayor of Fuckwit Town, who I wouldn’t trust to operate a spoon correctly.
My point is that it helps no-one but the EU if the reports our government have commissioned are as doom-laden as the Project Fear prognostications, which I suspect they will be if they’re coming from the same mandarins that were told not to plan for Leave.
That’s on the record.
The only other group it gives comfort to is Vichy Britain.
Just accept that some people on both sides of the argument don’t share your faith in the political bighitters Gove, May, Johnson, Davis, nor the Tory-appointed Brexit team.
We have research based on relevant factors, the EU has research based on relevant factors - it’s not rocket science, they all know the potential scores, there is no secret.
If the Tories believe they are the poker kings of Europe we are all in deep shit, as so far their negotiating performance since June last year has been fucking appalling.
I’ve refuted your first claim, recently, so I’m not sure why you’re making it again. I have little faith in any of these people individually, even less in the quarrelsome and toxic fucking fight club they seem to have created. This government will fall before the UK leaves the EU.
It’ll have done fucking well if it survives this month.
Cheers @rallyboy - this should help my upvote quest - that’s what we’re here for.
So, my view on Brexit today is mostly:
When I was stuck in traffic behind bloody immigrants in an area of Southampton where there used to be really good pubs (see attached nostalgic picture), I had the thought that Forster’s been shakier than Stevens since that failed manager Ronald the clown picked him - the flat-footed keeper’s been as useful as Harry Redknapp’s dog at an accountancy conference held in the crumbling ruin of lowly League One Fratton Park, a ground that could probably be demolished by one well-struck shot from Rickie Lambert/Matt Le Tissier/Charlie Wayman*, as that lovely man Nigel Adkins said to me before our forthcoming cup win, when we were discussing real ale now being available under standing areas in the revamped Northam, where the away fans have been kettled into a tiny corner so they can’t even see the proposed topless dance displays at halftime.
I’d bet my fucking life on Griffin voting Brexit. That does not make me the same as him, and I am more than prepared to defend the provocative position I’ve put forward.
This debate is seventy years old. Better politicians than Griffin or Farage have put forward much more compelling arguments, backed by facts and figures, based on the loss of sovereignty and a diminishing of our trading power. They were correct, not right.
Every pro-EU politician has implicitly accepted that elements of sovereignty, complete areas of policy, must be ceded to a foreign institution.
If anything, they make Petain look like a boy. He had his reasons. His country had just been smashed, his capital taken. Heath gave this country up without a fight.
Your suggestion that Britain has a puppet governemnt, controlled by a hostile occupying force, is frankly ludicrous. Your views seem to have become more and more nationalist over time, particularly where this subject is concerned. That’s something that I find immensely disturbing. It’s a nasty path to be treading.
And, incidentally, I’m not comparing you to Nick Griffin, merely commenting that your little bon mot would sit well in his mouth. You, on the other hand, are comparing successive governments of this country with one that participated quite cheerfully in the rounding-up and extermination of Jews, Gypsies, socialists, communists, trades unionists and others. Still, Pétain had his reasons, I guess.