⚱ :engerland: 🇦🇺 Ashes 2019, 4th Test, Old Trafford

We can draw the series but you retain the Ashes

Hmmm, this graphic seems to not agree with you there…

And I do like the article that the graphic game from

Stop ruining Barry’s bullshit with facts. He has nothing else to offer.

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How can Smith’s run scoring influence our batsmen? That is my point?

That graph doesn’t tell the whole story does it, one large score totally skews an average over a few games.

Thank you for that.

You’re just picking a headline to suit your argument, read the article, it’s balanced and all…

Oops, sorry about that! I am mistaken that we only have the Ashes “retained” on enemy territory. My bad :wink::wink:

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And you didn’t? Ha Ha for the love of God.
That article also says pretty much what I’ve been saying, Stokes sole superb display can’t mask our batting issues.

  1. Smith
  2. Poor batting by all bar one possibly two.
  3. Australia’s bowling
  4. Anderson out

In that order, but I reiterate Smith’s batting does not affect our own batting performances so therefore huge questions have to be asked of at least 3 of them.
The funny thing is we’re so desperate for pace we’ve jettisoned Archer into the fore footballesque style as we can’t help ourself #sportingjingoism and pure and utter hope, he will be good I’m sure but that last test shows how far he still needs to go, Australia’s line up individually isn’t stellar but collectively they look awesome, always rated Starc and the way he bowls, a more slinging action is far more dangerous to a batsman than a conventional delivery ie Archer, Broad, my point is Archer needs to figure out if he is going to be hostile, accurate or hopefully both. That match he was just well ordinary.
We simply can’t help ourselves though, just look at the headlines from 2 weeks ago, pure and utter fucking cringe and the Aussies (I know as I got a facebook message about it yesterday) use of that press bollocks as inspiration, thats the press but our fans think its true ha ha.

They need to look at the World of cricket and they’ll see we’re shite in the test format, they won’t as they like to be wrapped up in a #sportingjingoism bubble.

I’d have to go with Smith but it could be Warner, for England I’d say Bairstow could have a good series, the bowlers you can’t look past Starc, for England I’d go for Anderson BUT he could be under pressure if he doesn’t deliver so then it’d be Archer.

Batsman - Smith
Bowler - Starc

Too close to call the result of the Ashes but a close win for Australia at the moment, I hope I’m wrong.

My predictions, Starc was long shot but I thought they’d go for him more but I suppose they wanted accuracy.

So the one bit you got right, Smith, the main difference between the 2 sides. Nostrafuckingdamus.

As I’ve been saying and you can’t quite grasp, he doesn’t effect our batsmen nor our scoring.

So if Smith comes out and scores 200 you don’t think that puts extra pressure on our batsmen?

Not if we win the toss and decide to bat of course not, and are you saying our batsmen have folded before they’ve gone to the crease?

No but YOU are saying what Smith scores has no effect on our batsmen. I don’t think that’s true.

Your opinion not fact, how can it affect if England bat first?

If Smith comes out and scores 200 that puts pressure on our batsmen. Cant you read? You have heard of scoreboard pressure in your new career as cricket guru?

And if we’re affected by Smith scoring runs which is hardly a surprise is it? Then we’re fucked, I take it you know this from hearing the batsmen say that?

No, no I didn’t think so.

I was listening to some Saffer the other day talking about chasing down 430+ against the Australians. His comment was that they batted with complete freedom as they didn’t expect to get near the huge total. He reckoned if they were chasing 100 less it would have been a different game as they would have batted with a different attitude.
So yes, how opposition batsmen perform can effect how the side batting second both approach and execute their innings.

After Smith scores 200. How many times has he done that in this series? Was that batting first?

How does this affect us when we bat first?
I’ll think you’ll also find the English one day players in the test team are used to chasing down totals and that what they prefer.
Chase 430 down consistently and not the once and see how many times you go past it, and was this a one day game?