Well as you seem unable to articulate HOW brexit will improve your chances of improved pay and better employment, (beyondless competition form foreigners) I fucking hope you are using your lucky dice, because you are going to need a fucking huge slice of it…
Its quite sad that someone so young with youth on your side is so blinkered about opportunity…'youth is wasted on the young’
I don’t have good finance either. I don’t have pension or anything like that. I figure by the time I get pension age, you won’t need one. The Robots will be doing all the work, everything will be Free, and we’ll just be lying back being spoon-fed peeled grapes by Robo SexBots designed to look like Emily Ratajkowski. I mean, up until The Uprising.
This article makes me very sad and angry. The country has taken a big step backward, where a small minority have used brexit as a platform for pure hate!
You’re not insulting me by referring to my debating style as naturally aggressive. Fuck, most things I do are done the same way (don’t play me at poker). It’s not going away, but you’ve also got to take into account that I put up with a lot more shit than other people with a smile. If there is anyone more insulted than me on this site (except Bazza), I’d like to know.
We’ve lost three people that used to post often. We can discuss them if you want, but you know the circumstances behind each one as well as I do. Ex-Trader was bullied off by Remainers. The other two you could just about pin on me, particularly Lou when I defended Jack Schitt’s post. In hindsight, no regrets about that. Don’t have any regrets about Furball either.
I don’t ascribe any qualities to anyone based on how they voted in Brexit, unlike many people here. I am disappointed with the quality of debate that has followed. I’m frankly amazed that people have forgotten all the other politics that people have.
That’s the sort of negative campaigning I’m referring to, unless you think that me doorstepping someone and trying to change their vote by suggesting they’re hormonal, selfish or racist is the way forward.
Racist - will it become true if you say it enough times Pap?? I never accused anyone of being racist - Tramps accused me of insinuating it… which was not true, I insinuated he was being xenophobic because of his statement with repsect to foreign workers and have given plenty of encouragement to counter and present a different conclusion… none of which have been forthcoming - I see nothing wrong with that or pulling someone up If what they are saying suggests a xenophobic rational… I am also totally happy to apologise and admit I am wrong/mistaken if that is the case, but nothing that has been said in this debate suggests that I am …so far.
With respect to posters leaving - You nearly could have added me to that list and pinned it on yourself, no doubt I would ont have been missed by many, but the only reason I am still here is because I said fuck it, I wont get driven away onother peoples terms… heat/kitchen and all that.
Racist - will it become true if you say it enough times Pap?? I never accused anyone of being racist - Tramps accused me of insinuating it… which was not true, I insinuated he was being xenophobic because of his statement with repsect to foreign workers and have given plenty of encouragement to counter and present a different conclusion… none of which have been forthcoming - I see nothing wrong with that or pulling someone up If what they are saying suggests a xenophobic rational… I am also totally happy to apologise and admit I am wrong/mistaken if that is the case, but nothing that has been said in this debate suggests that I am …so far.
With respect to posters leaving - You nearly could have added me to that list and pinned it on yourself, no doubt I would ont have been missed by many, but the only reason I am still here is because I said fuck it, I wont get driven away onother peoples terms… heat/kitchen and all that.
Get over yourself, GA - I’m not referring to just this thread.
There have been a group of refuseniks having a go at self-proclaimed Leave voters, to a greater or larger extent, since the referendum result was actually announced. I can’t wait to do the end of year awards again, to see how many downvotes I attracted just for positing a different political opinion in the last month.
As far as posters leaving is concerned, people are free to do what they want, any old time. I’ll never be held to ransom on the issue again.
Your membership is a membership, not a bargaining chip.
It is this countries shame… and many predicted this would happen on such a result which is why I am so angry about it. For me, somethings are worth being selfless about and doing what is right for teh good of the many, even if it means compromising some personal principles…its a difficult choice, I appreciate that, but when we see this sort of thing, I am even more convinced that this country made the worng one…
Of course there have - because of the level of emotion and passion this question and all its consequences evokes… why its still ongoing - you cant expect this place not to reflect that passion and anger - if you dont want it, then close those threads - but dont on the one hand suggest this is a free place to post as you will, but then complain about what this delivers. You have attracted more scorn than most for one simple reason. You chose to vote on your deep seated principles re democracy etc… (and yes I am aware there was more to it than that) all sound and rational reaosns… but despite your left views, you dont seem to be in anyway fucked off that Murdochs rags could have had so much influence and that the result was in the end won by a few million who genuinely beleive the xenophoc shit published by his media - trotting out the same ‘democracy’ line in your defence… well I for one am fucking angry that this country has gone this route - just read that link posted above… welcome to the new Britain, one that has manifested itself on the back of that Brexit mandate, whatever the good intentions of some that voted that way… so yeah, forgive me for being fucking appalled.
I’m stating my opinion, like anyone else. From my perspective, it’s been alarming watching a number of you take this loss so badly, and be so ready to ascribe dark motives, or indeed stupidity, to those that didn’t vote the way you did.
More than anything else, what have you collectively achieved?
Missed this classic earlier - love it, thats more like it fighting talk, so I am just waiting for Pap to come out and tell you are playing the man not the post to show his unbiassed approach …or maybe not…
You see this is a classic 'youthful’post, because had I said something along the lines of - Yeah,I got a house, a fuck off big car, holidays in Southern France and Italy each year, decent pension, …so fuck you… then I could understand your bitterness, but I dont say fuck you, I have repeatedly demonstrated sympathy for those starting out or even more for those who struggle on less… but within the spectrum that for those starting its pretty normal … but ultimately whilst you insist on making what is a national issue all about you, I cant take you seriously… especially when you cant answer the simple of question as to how it will make life better for you apart from rolling the dice and hoping… and less competition from smart foreigners…
You obviously fail to see the irony between your selfishness and you accusing me in effect saying fuck you., I’m all right jack…
Nothing, because that is democracy… but I find it more alarming that so many seem to accept what is happening as a result of some stupidity. You keep repeating a fallacy Pap in the hope maybe that you can convince yourself, but NO ONE has said 52% of voters are stupid or have dark motives - merely suggesting based on all the qualitative evidence that maybe 5-10% are/have - been taken in by the evil spread in the media and happy to blame immigransts for their problems - I find it alarming that many seem comfortable with this situation, given the consequences…
I think you’ve all become a lot more angar since Brexit. It was alright when you was just all blaming pap, but now ur turning on any old randomer who wanders in off the street.