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Whichever way you look at it, the images of those coppers, which will be shown across the world, charging that bandstand, trampling all over the wreaths is a bad look. Shameful and so disrespectful.
Yet there was another wreath laying ceremony near by that went off with no fuss.
Odd
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I presume you mean our future Queen, the stalker? Exactly. It wasnāt a virtue signalling publicity thing though, honest. She just decided to pay her respects and the mass media and their cameramen just happened to be passing.
Cynic
Anyone else amazed that Cressida Dick ever became head of the Met?
If she had the most unblemished CV for the job, the Met is fucked.
It actually was mostly female PCās until the numbers grew too large and reinforcements had to be called in. The trouble started when the flowers laid out for Sarah were being stood on and the police tried to control this. Then it all kicked off with some of the female PCās being told it should have been them murdered, really classy.
I really do not see how breaking the law, and behaving in this way, was showing any sign of respect for either Sarah or her family
I am with you on this. Sarahās family apparently also asked people to not turn up and do their own vigil at home.
Having watched a few video clips being endlessly played on the news a bit more closely, some of those doing most of the wrestling with the police were men, and some were wearing balaclavas.
And there was a big ACAB banner, at a peaceful vigil for Sarah?
I have a bit of sympathy with the police - managing protests under Covid restrictions must be a nightmare
They got a hammering for being too stand offish in the BLM protests but as soon as they intervene here they get it in the neck again .Damned if you doā¦
They should have agreed it with the organisers. Much easier to manage then. It was clear that people would attend. Other vigils were held with no issues. They apparently said they didnāt have the staff to deal with it but then there were staff to be there.
Iāve not seen any of that reported. Apart from some police were pushed and that those were men doing that.
The police donāt have that choice. The current law is no gatherings and where do they draw the line? Yes you can have the vigil, no you canāt have a funeral procession, BLM is Ok, gay pride March - no can do
Itās impossible
Once again, other gatherings did happen in the rest of the UK. This could have been avoided. We saw football fans celebrating their wins recently with no issues.
I find this guyās threads an interesting read about all the legislation that has been brought in over the year.
I donāt agree with the football fans gathering either
The police cannot say go on then otherwise everyone would be at it
There is bloody good reason why gathering are banned at the moment
It was reported on the radio but did not fit with the MSM views on police. The simple fact is there should be no gatherings during a pandemic lockdown, itās not rocket science. Particularly as Sarahās family asked for it not to happen
With all due respect to Sarah, I think it was all about every female who has had to deal with violence and harassment. This latest murder was a catalyst for expressions of sadness across the country. I understand that her parents didnāt want it done in her name but I really think it went beyond this one murder.
Meant to add that there has been a great deal of inconsistency over when police take action and when they back off. We all know the Cummings saga. Some police officers were filmed taking the knee at George Floyd vigils. I donāt recall seeing those on the beach in the summer being pushed to the ground and cuffed. A number of vigils happened over the weekend without incident and police intervention so why did it happen at Clapham and Brighton?
As Bucks pointed out, it may have been hijacked by an anti-police group, there reportedly having been an ACAB sign at the vigil. Its not hard to imagine a group of thugs deliberately behaving in such a way as to guarantee a response of police force for their own ends, which will have been nothing to do with the murder.
Sarah Everard vigil: Woman āwas ignored by policeā over exposure report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56409023
Not great under the circumstances.
Similarly, police officers shouldnāt be out on the streets getting accused of kidnap and murder.
While Iāve generally got a great deal of respect for our legal process, I take a dim view of shit law and I think it needs pointing out.
I have complained for 13 years about the enabling act Labour left us with. Itās shit law. Iāve got strong opinions on the anti-protest bill being put forward. Itās shit law.
Rosa Parks was not allowed to sit in the white only section of the bus. Again, shit law. If she had taken the attitude which seems to be floated here, that no-one should do anything that contravenes the laws of the land, then nothing ever changes, except we get more shit law.