This brings us to the most disturbing area of Blue Labour’s thinking – the similarities between some of its ideas and those of the far right. This is most obvious in the case of its stance on immigration and national identity. The frequent invocation of the “white working class” in particular is reminiscent of far right discourse. No one doubts the anti-fascist credentials of Blue Labour figures – but their ideas sail close to the wind in this respect. Outrageously, Glasman recently argued that Labour should seek to involve EDL supporters within the party. But there’s no future for Labour in pandering to far right extremism and it’s certainly not socialist to pitch “whites” (working class or not) against immigrants and ethnic minorities.
I dug this out which seems to cover it, i must confess I’d never heard of Blue Labour. An interesting read, the stuff about EDL and the ‘Faith, Family and Flag’ is a bit unsettling. Apparently Chuka Umunna is one of their gurus which doesn’t really inspire confidence. https://libcom.org/book/export/html/36449
The white working class that they’re referring to as EDL is what we used to call the red wall. The link on that Guardian article goes nowhere relevant.
However, I’ve read @Nottarf-Krap’s link as well. Still don’t see an issue. Let me ask you something. What would you fellas prefer?
That someone at least tries to reach out to people that haven’t been listened to, or you give those voters to the Tories or the EDL?
I’m not sure about this. The local Chief Crown Prosector for the area would make the call in the first place, not the DPP. The DPP managers a team of CCP across the country who each have teams of lawyers. It is the reviewing lawyer who would make the call in the first place. Perhaps the CCP overruled their reviewing lawyer?
Starmer made many changes in his time as DPP to make sure that cases like Saville’s would be easier to be brought to court. The prosecutor who reopened the Rochdale case, Nazis Afzal, CCP for the NW, was given a new position by Starmer as head of a child abuse and sexual exploitation unit. He doesn’t bottle difficult decisions and it can’t have been easy to take action against Corbyn. He would have known that he would get flack from the far left for it. He also knew that he had to be seen to be taken firm action following the report on anti-semitism, something that Corbyn certainly didn’t do robustly. He is someone who makes decisions and gets things done. Wouldn’t it be good to have a PM like that now!
The police fucked up the investigation into the sex ring, not the CPS.
Starmer has dug himself a world of trouble, both historically, and recently. He has been a tool for the Tories, perhaps the arch Remainer and architect of Labour’s defeat in the last election.
His conference speech went against the policy of the leadership then. His zeal for all things EU will not be forgotten.
The treatment of Corbyn just shows how serious he really was about party unity. It won’t have gone down well in the Labour Party membership.
I don’t think Corbyn gave him much of an option. If he is going to be taken seriously about dealing with anti-semitism he couldn’t just let it go. Corbyn didn’t even bother with a Patelesque non apology apology.
FFS how many times does Corbyn need to apologise for ANY racism. He’s done it fucking loads of times despite it being a tiny percentage of labour members. Conflating this with that evil cunt Patel is bollocks.
That’s the point though Goat. He hasn’t done it in a way that works and he just made things worse when he responded to the report initially. There are a great many people who are ready to think the worst about him, which is why he needs to chose his words and actions more carefully. You only have to look at what Johnson gets away with regularly to see that people cut him way more slack than Corbyn. Yes, it sucks and is not in the least bit fair, but that is politics for you. The plain fact is that for the average Joe in the street, his responses to the anti-semitism charges just haven’t been convincing enough. It isn’t the likes of you and Pap he needs to convince.
Maybe the likes of me? Yes I am part Jewish so I think I am entitled to a view and my view is that Corbyn has been badly maligned and treated appallingly by the Labour party. Many of my Jewish friends agree
Corbyn could swear loyalty to Israel, beg the Lord for forgiveness, tell the world that he can’t live with the shame, put a gun in his mouth and blow his fucking brains out on the nine o clock news and pricks would still be saying: “yeah but did he really mean it?”
I’m not interested in hearing any more apologies. I don’t think Corbyn owes anyone any.
The cunts that have hounded him for the last 5 years are the ones who should be apologising.
I don’t disagree, but clearly his attempts to clarify the situation have not worked very well have they? You don’t need to look very far to find people still calling him an anti-Semite and Labour an anti-Semitic party.
The blairite wing of his own party were so appalled by the idea of a dyed in the wool socialist actually getting close to the reins of power that they’ve been slinging anti-semite slurs at him for years. Some of that mud is bound to have stuck regardless of what he says about it.