🇺🇸 💣 The US Presidential Race

It doesn’t seem to be a great time to be an establishment politician. Peter Hitchens’ assertion that the polls are there to drive, rather than record public opinion, seems ever more accurate.

The anti-establishment vote is going to manifest itself in different ways and on opposite ends of the political spectrum. The US has moved to the right, France is moving to the right, as is Germany.

We need to be the country that moves to the left.

There’s long been a case that the US shouldn’t be seen as a moral leader in the world, never more apparent than in the past twelve months.

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Phil makes a good point - that is three votes on the trot that have been won because voters responded to promises that cannot be delivered.

Modern politics - promise what simple people want to hear, backtrack quietly, hope no one notices…

Has Mexico paid for that wall that is being built today? Are all Muslims being deported?

The next year or two would be funny if it wasn’t about people’s lives.

It’s a ridiclulous event in US history but Trump is not to blame - voters cannot distance themselves from the result when it goes wrong.

Trump clearly has no policy on most matters, and he cannot deliver the walls or jobs that he promises…but any intelligent person knew that when they voted.

And if someone says he appealed to people who are not listened to - now you can see why no one listens to them - they’re a bunch of clueless kneejerk simpletons.

Shame on you America, today you have demanded the freedom to shoot yourselves in both of your big clown shoes.

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he’s not even sworn in yet! I totally think Trump will deliver! v.soon construction will commence on a great big metaphorical wall.

The Mexicans are just wiring $500m for the wall payment, robots are being removed from all US production lines, Russia has withdrawn from Syria, and China is promising not to make any more cheap steel.

The future looks great.

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John McTernan, Blair’s election strategist and the bloke who fucked up the Scottish campaigns so badly, went over to help Hillary.

All is explained :lou_sunglasses:

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Well, that’s all a terrible shame.

Originally posted by @Rallyboy

Phil makes a good point - that is three votes on the trot that have been won because voters responded to promises that cannot be delivered.

Modern politics - promise what simple people want to hear, backtrack quietly, hope no one notices…

It prob goes further back that 3 votes i.e. Obama made a load of promises he couldn’t deliver. There was whole documentary about it. It was on TV, and everything.

Looking forward to this week’s South Park.

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Saw a great ad this morning - “Bricks, 72p. Buy them before Trump does!”

Magnificent :lou_lol:

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One of them was this brash asshole who just spoke his mind. He didn’t really offer any solutions, he just said outrageous things. We just thought he was funny. Nobody ever thought he’d be President. It was a joke! But we just let the joke go on for too long. He kept gaining momentum, and by the time we were ready to say, ‘Let’s get serious now, who should really be President?’ he was already being sworn into office. We weren’t paying attention! We weren’t paying attention!

At least Trump will stop banging on about rigged elections now

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Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

No more wars in the middle east.

Really? That’s an interesting analysis. Care to expand on that?

Have you met Bazza before?

Trump is a massive isolationist, he’ll let the World burn and will quite correctly ask nations to pay their way in contributions to NATO, surely you would know Trump is inward looking and Clinton is a hawk?

This is common knowledge, Libya and Iran will be very happy this morning.

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Yes, funny that. Only rigged if he had lost. 2016 has officially gone down as the craziest year in my lifetime. WTF just happened?

I did say a long time ago.

That happened when he was nominated, democracy is great. It hasn’t been a good few months for the sandal wearer.

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Which pretty much sums up the US of A.

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We all know they are moving to the right, the question is why are they moving to the right?

What has made them veer this way?
What can they do to reverse it?

I voted for Blair and he was supposed to be the 2nd coming, he took us to an illegal war and killed 1000’s after asking God for permission, has Trump done this? Will he do it? No he won’t. As long as America doesn’t get hurt Trump won’t give a shit about the World, similar in many ways to Reagan. He’ll surround himself with highly intelligent people and bask under old glory getting people to massage his ego.

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The Trump I’ve seen knows best about everything and doesn’t require expert guidance - he will be his own man even if the decision is bonkers.

The people have given him licence to do whatever he fancies and if that involves using military force I have no doubt that he will do that.