More war with Clinton or an isolationist US if Trump wins, either way the free World is screwed.
Iām still not sure about how this is going to turn out - the likelihood is a narrow Clinton victory but Trump has every chance of beating her. While pretty much everyone sees Trump as a sleazy, brash moron, Clinton is a slick manoeuvrerer who is far more dangerous in some ways than her opponent. As Pap and others have said, sheās an unapologetic warmongerer which poses problems in todayās volatile climate. Thatās about the only way in which Trump has her beat, although I dread the thought of either of them being in charge for 4 years.
The Young Turks on YouTube had an interesting discussion a few weeks back about the Democratic selection process, where they said that if HRC had more competition than just Bernie (god bless him) she wouldāve been comprehensively beaten like Jeb Bush was in the Republican primaries. If you had the likes of Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg etc involved in the race, she wouldāve been out on here arse - her reputation is absolute trash and sheās only here because the Democratic superdelegates didnāt want to put themselves behind Bernie.
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Hereās something you might like to read.
The most salient point:
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Furthermore, Tapperās news-report provided essential context for that statement of hers (context which was also reflected in CNNās report that was based on his), and this essential context changes in a very important way the meaning of the excerpt just cited: Ā«Clinton further displayed tough talk in an interview airing on āGood Morning Americaā Tuesday. ABC Newsā Chris Cuomo asked Clinton ** what she would do if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons**. āI want the Iranians to know that if Iām the president, we will attack Iran,ā Clinton said. āIn the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.āĀ» That news-report by Tapper included a streamer saying, Ā«Watch the full interview with Sen. Hillary Clinton on āGMAā TuesdayĀ», but itās actually dead (thereās no link there), and ABC provides no transcript at all, nor even a video with that segment; so, Tapperās account is the only remaining source regarding the interview. However, from the veracity-checks I routinely do, I have found that Tapper, unlike Lendman (and unlike Establishment āreportersā in general), can be trusted, because Iāve found the assertions that he makes to be true, at least so far as they go, even if at a deeper level some of his statements are misleading (in favor of the standard misconceptions, of course ā but thatās not involved here).
In any case, because ABC fails to provide online-access to the original of that GMA segment, Tapperās account of it is the original, for present purposes. And, what it shows is that when Hillary was asked Ā«what she would do if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weaponsĀ», her answer was Ā«I want the Iranians to know that if Iām the president, we will attack IranĀ»."
Nothing like a bit of context, eh?
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Clinton is thoroughly unlikable, owned by coprorate America, plus other things itās unwise to commit to writing.
But to consider her more dangerous that Trump is laughable.
He would bomb Mexico tomorrow if he got out of bed the wrong side, heās a delusional nutter.
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http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/donald-trump-and-politics-of-resentment.html
Two fantastic articles about the rise of Trump that are very well worth reading.
I wasnāt aware of that context. Iāll concede that.
I am aware of what she was able to do in Libya as mere secretary as state. Same old problem, guv.
Sheās a warmonger.
Sheās a warmonger and heās a fucking loon.
I suspect that she is the least offensive of the two appalling candidates.
I would trust her to kill less people on a whim.
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Originally posted by @Rallyboy
Clinton is thoroughly unlikable, owned by coprorate America, plus other things itās unwise to commit to writing.
But to consider her more dangerous that Trump is laughable.
He would bomb Mexico tomorrow if he got out of bed the wrong side, heās a delusional nutter.
Inside Donald Trumpās Last Stand: An Anxious Nominee Seeks Assurance
The contrasts pervade his campaign. Aides to Mr. Trump have finally wrested away the Twitter account that he used to colorfully ā and often counterproductively ā savage his rivals. But offline, Mr. Trump still privately muses about all the ways he will punish his enemies after Election Day, including a threat to fund a āsuper PACā with vengeance as its core mission.
Trumps own team donāt trust him with his Twitter account. But yeah, just put him in control of a massive nuclear arsenal and the largest military in the world.
'Coz yāknow, Clintons emails?
Sheās probably responsible for many of the African refugees taking their chances on the Med.
Whatever you thought of Gaddafiās regime, it enforced its interior. After Hillary was done with it, it was porous.
Originally posted by @Rallyboy
Clinton is thoroughly unlikable, owned by coprorate America, plus other things itās unwise to commit to writing.
But to consider her more dangerous that Trump is laughable.
He would bomb Mexico tomorrow if he got out of bed the wrong side, heās a delusional nutter.
She has already helped to destroy a country and exacerbate a migrant crisis. After she learned that Gaddafi had been sodomised and lynched, her quotation was āWe came, we saw, he diedā.
Theyāre both potentially dangerous. Only one has proven to be actually dangerous to the rest of the world, Trumpās golf course in Scotland excepted.
Clinton is intelligent, has power, has contacts and wants a dynasty/legacy.
Trump is in it for the ego, heāll be like Obama was and would be controlled by others from behind.
Clinton is far far more dangerous to the World and World peace than Trump, Trump isnāt dangerous at all, heās a buffoon who would be controlled Clinton couldnāt be reigned in.
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Quite a few people have already voted by post, but the main event begins in around four minutes time.
At 6:00am EST, people will be voting on the East Coast.
You are probably right - she would kill them after thinking about it
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I find it interesting that Clinton is a puppet owned by her donors, but cannot be controlled.
But Trump is not owned by donors, so not controlled by anyone, but can be controlled.
Talk of controlling rw Fascists reminds me of someone else? Howād that go?
Really donāt get how people can see what is happening with Trump & Russia less scary to be honest. Their shared love for authoritarianism, brutality, breaking up NATO and the like.
Clinton is, essentially, any other politician. Up to her neck in dirty political dealing from a lifetime in politics. Trump is only not involved in that because heās never held office (somehow, thatās a good thing?), but heās involved in just as much dirty dealing.
As for killing, how you can not be concerned by a guy that has meltdowns everytime someone criticises him I donāt know. Especially coming from a guy that talks about wanting to use nukes, and wants more countries in the world to have them. Itās not as if heās never shown blood list before, dude paid for full page adverts to get 5 young black men killed for a crime they didnāt commit - and despite dna evidence, refuses to admit their innocence.
Heās a straight up fascist dictator waiting to happen. Clinton aināt likeable, sure, but sheās a cog in the wheel, establishment politician. Thereās no way the latter is more dangerous than the former.
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This guy explains my stance in a more articulate way than me
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @KRG
I find it interesting that Clinton is a puppet owned by her donors, but cannot be controlled.
But Trump is not owned by donors, so not controlled by anyone, but can be controlled.
Talk of controlling rw Fascists reminds me of someone else? Howād that go?
Really donāt get how people can see what is happening with Trump & Russia less scary to be honest. Their shared love for authoritarianism, brutality, breaking up NATO and the like.
Clinton is, essentially, any other politician. Up to her neck in dirty political dealing from a lifetime in politics. Trump is only not involved in that because heās never held office (somehow, thatās a good thing?), but heās involved in just as much dirty dealing.
As for killing, how you can not be concerned by a guy that has meltdowns everytime someone criticises him I donāt know. Especially coming from a guy that talks about wanting to use nukes, and wants more countries in the world to have them. Itās not as if heās never shown blood list before, dude paid for full page adverts to get 5 young black men killed for a crime they didnāt commit - and despite dna evidence, refuses to admit their innocence.
Heās a straight up fascist dictator waiting to happen. Clinton aināt likeable, sure, but sheās a cog in the wheel, establishment politician. Thereās no way the latter is more dangerous than the former.
Nice web site. I particularly liked all the links down the right side of the page:
Pentagon decides to officially support Al-Qaeda in Syria
Hillary Clinton is āa danger to the worldā says Franceās Marine le Pen
Leaked memo shows how George Soros planned to overthrow Vladimir Putin and destabilise Russia
China rolls out red carpet for Vladimir Putin at G20. Obama forced to exit Air Force One from emergency door
5 reasons the US has already decided to go to war with Russia
NSA whistleblower says DNC hack was not done by Russia, but by US intelligence
The piece de resistance, though, is one of the video links at the top of the page, titled āAttempted Assassination of Donald Trumpā. Priceless.
Donāt know about you, but I see a kind of pattern emerging there. Not that this means that the story youāve linked to isnāt true, of course. But its credibility sure as hell isnāt helped by all of that other shit.
Itās from a Wikileaks cable. That website just happened to be one of the many outlets covering the Tick Tock emails. In hindsight, I should have linked the PDF directly, but Iām kinda glad I didnāt.
This has been revealing.
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Originally posted by @pap
Itās from a Wikileaks cable. That website just happened to be one of the many outlets covering the Tick Tock emails. In hindsight, I should have linked the PDF directly, but Iām kinda glad I didnāt.
This has been revealing.
What has?