So we have a liar wanting to create a dynasty and a businessman with dodgy politics to say the least, the US deserves what it gets, either way they wont get a 2nd term.
The trump show on 4 is very interesting, he is a businessman wanting power in my assessment.
“he is a businessman wanting power in my assessment”
That’s radical thinking
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John Pilger has produced a couple of interesting articles on the Presidential race. Interestingly, although not surprisingly, he has the more ire reserved for Hillary. Brilliant read, as always.
A couple of snippets.
In the circus known as the American presidential campaign, Donald Trump is being presented as a lunatic, a fascist. He is certainly odious; but he is also a media hate figure. That alone should arouse our scepticism.
Trump’s views on migration are grotesque, but no more grotesque than those of David Cameron. It is not Trump who is the Great Deporter from the United States, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner, Barack Obama.
According to one prodigious liberal commentator, Trump is “unleashing the dark forces of violence” in the United States. Unleashing them?
This is the country where toddlers shoot their mothers and the police wage a murderous war against black Americans. This is the country that has attacked and sought to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed from Asia to the Middle East, causing the deaths and dispossession of millions of people.
No country can equal this systemic record of violence. Most of America’s wars (almost all of them against defenceless countries) have been launched not by Republican presidents but by liberal Democrats: Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama.
This is particularly damning for Hillary.
Donald Trump is a symptom of this, but he is also a maverick. He says the invasion of Iraq was a crime; he doesn’t want to go to war with Russia and China. The danger to the rest of us is not Trump, but Hillary Clinton. She is no maverick. She embodies the resilience and violence of a system whose vaunted “exceptionalism” is totalitarian with an occasional liberal face.
As presidential election day draws near, Clinton will be hailed as the first female president, regardless of her crimes and lies - just as Barack Obama was lauded as the first black president and liberals swallowed his nonsense about “hope”. And the drool goes on.
http://johnpilger.com/articles/a-world-war-has-begun-break-the-silence-
The scariest thing is that moderate, common sense, globally responsible, nationallly compassionate, corruption free, not in the back pocket of corpoarte America, decent, honest human beings… have zero chance of ever being elected in the USA (nor here for that matter) - extreme views galvanise, extreme views demomstrate strength apparently… scary times
Originally posted by @pap
John Pilger has produced a couple of interesting articles on the Presidential race. Interestingly, although not surprisingly, he has the more ire reserved for Hillary. Brilliant read, as always.
A couple of snippets.
In the circus known as the American presidential campaign, Donald Trump is being presented as a lunatic, a fascist. He is certainly odious; but he is also a media hate figure. That alone should arouse our scepticism.
Trump’s views on migration are grotesque, but no more grotesque than those of David Cameron. It is not Trump who is the Great Deporter from the United States, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner, Barack Obama.
According to one prodigious liberal commentator, Trump is “unleashing the dark forces of violence” in the United States. Unleashing them?
This is the country where toddlers shoot their mothers and the police wage a murderous war against black Americans. This is the country that has attacked and sought to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed from Asia to the Middle East, causing the deaths and dispossession of millions of people.
No country can equal this systemic record of violence. Most of America’s wars (almost all of them against defenceless countries) have been launched not by Republican presidents but by liberal Democrats: Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama.
This is particularly damning for Hillary.
Donald Trump is a symptom of this, but he is also a maverick. He says the invasion of Iraq was a crime; he doesn’t want to go to war with Russia and China. The danger to the rest of us is not Trump, but Hillary Clinton. She is no maverick. She embodies the resilience and violence of a system whose vaunted “exceptionalism” is totalitarian with an occasional liberal face.
As presidential election day draws near, Clinton will be hailed as the first female president, regardless of her crimes and lies - just as Barack Obama was lauded as the first black president and liberals swallowed his nonsense about “hope”. And the drool goes on.
http://johnpilger.com/articles/a-world-war-has-begun-break-the-silence-
Me and Pilger are on the same page, the yanks will get what they deserve, Cruz is far far far more dangerous than Trump who is a clown, Clinton is the same as Cruz, she is trying to create a dynasty and in turn a legacy, treading over peoples rights wont come into it (e mails as an example).
They are all bastards BUT Trump can be reigned in as he is politically inept, Cruz is a religious zealot who will not be turned, the same for liberal extremist Clinton. The States will fragment soon politically and maybe even Califonia and Texas and possibly Washington pushing for more powers or even ceding?
You have to feel for Americans really. What a set of choices they are presented with.
“Hmmm. I could vote for him, but he is a reprehensible cunt. I could vote for him, but he’s a fucking freak, or him, but he’s a fundamentalist loon, and also a cunt. Which leaves her – but she eats middle eastern babies for breakfast, burps, and washes them down with the blood from the freshly circumcised foreskins of the sons of AIPAC. Oh – and she is a massive cunt.”
What to do, what to do…
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Well, there’s always the outside chance that something will stick to her before the Democrats finally settle on their nomination. There’s a lot of rumbling about super-delegates, and Clinton’s current control of them, and how that is shaking out in terms of influencing the democratic process.
I’d personally like to see Bernie Sanders win. We see anti-establishment candidates pop up all the time. Trump is an example of one, but Sanders has got his heart in the right place on most issues. Sadly, I reckon the Hillary machine has been refined, primed and ready to go. If the huge amount of shit swirling around her doesn’t stick now, when she’s going for the top job and theoretically under the most scrutiny of her life, it’s never really going to.
I think my “Trump is running to make Hillary look viable” theory is getting more believable by the day.
Originally posted by @pap
I think my “Trump is running to make Hillary look viable” theory is getting more believable by the day.
That’s only a “theory” Pap?
At work, it’s what we call a fact. 
Great friends, the Trumps and the Clintons.
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The race looks to be tightening up. Cruz scored a big win in Wisconsin last night. Sanders has won 7 out of the last 8 nominations. Trump seems to be losing support, and there are 147 FBI agents investigating Hillary.
It’s certainly getting closer than it looked like it would be at one point.
I read that apparently a fair number of GOP members are praying for some kind of implosion that would allow them to put forward someone other than Trump or Cruz. There seems to be a feeling that it’s known Trump or Cruz don’t stand a great chance in a general against either Democrat candidate.
Does look like the Trump train has run out of gas. Shockingly, appealing solely to straight white men can’t carry you all the way. Even in a party almost exclusively about looking out for straight white men. Seems the racist, bile filled rants, constant policy flip flopping and petty fights are wearing thin. Too early to say it’s over - dude has been written off a lot and come back. But, it’s certainly not looking as good for him as it did a month or so ago.
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Originally posted by @pap
The race looks to be tightening up. Cruz scored a big win in Wisconsin last night. Sanders has one 7 out of the last 8 nominations. Trump seems to be losing support, and there are 147 FBI agents investigating Hillary.
Hilary to win to then set up the first husband and wife to face impeachment proceedings
Hillary could literally be taken out of the race at any time. The mere fact that so many federal agents are investigating her for wrongdoing should disqualify her from running, but anecdotal reports suggest that there are a fair few Hillary supporters that don’t even believe an investigation is happening. Many of the rest mistakenly believe that it isn’t serious, thinking it some kind of civil matter, when the FBI only ever investigate criminal cases. The Clinton hype machine is running at full steam.
No direct links to Hillary have been found in the Panama Papers, but a couple of the people she is associated with are implicated. There’s a piece in the Independent today which suggests that even if Hillary isn’t indicted, and doesn’t get directly linked to the offshore banking scandal, she’s _seen _as the sort of establishment figure that would happily go along with all of this shit. Sanders’ previous opposition to relaxing trade laws with Panama may serve him well.
The people campaigning about Trump deserve Clinton or Cruz, Jesus wept they’re even worse and I mean that.
do you guise think we could build a wall round wales + make them pay for it srs?
We’re crossing the streams!
Sanders also said that he had correctly predicted that the passage of the trade deal “would make it easier, not harder, for the wealthy and large corporations to evade taxes by sheltering billions of dollars offshore.”
“I wish I had been proven wrong about this, but it has now come to light that the extent of Panama’s tax avoidance scams is even worse than I had feared,” he said, before pivoting to Clinton. “My opponent, on the other hand, opposed this trade agreement when she was running against Barack Obama for president in 2008. But when it really mattered she quickly reversed course and helped push the Panama Free Trade Agreement through Congress as Secretary of State. The results have been a disaster."
They should pay us for the castles we built that people pay and go and visit. Good English castles them and I would like them back or for them to pay for it.
Interesting piece from the Crux on superdelegates, what they mean for the race, and why they really exist. Trump and Sanders are the big losers.
The _Post _summed up this “strange” phenomenon:
“[U]nder the Democratic Party’s oddball delegate system, Sanders’ winning streak — he has won seven out of the past eight contests — counts for little.
“In fact, despite his win, he splits Wyoming’s 14 pledged delegates 7 to 7 under the caucus calculus.
“Clinton, meanwhile, also gets the state’s four superdelegates — who had already pledged their allegiance to her in January. So despite ‘losing,’ she triumphs 11-7 in the delegate tally.”
The superdelegate process is complicated, as we’ve noted before, but they have one essential function: to prevent candidates like Bernie Sanders from winning the Democratic nomination.
http://thecrux.com/2016-the-year-the-americans-found-out-our-elections-are-rigged/
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I’ll vote for you
And we think our electoral process is fucked
If trump gets shafted at the republican convension , he should run on an independant ticket. In fact he should probably threaten to do so before the convention
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