Joe Aribo not coming home yetâŚ
Nigeria through to Afcon Semis
'Drew Surman coming home
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Another good technical analysis by Jody
Russell Martin interview: My brothers and I broke our familyâs cycle of domestic violence
Southampton manager opens up on his family history caused by an abusive father and how it has shaped his managerial methods
Russell Martin was 27 when he decided to change. Relegated from the Premier League, suffering from ulcerative colitis, he realised that, as a player, he had turned into a ârobotâ. He was not being true to himself as a sportsman and, maybe, as a person.
By then Martin had also become a father. At this point, a little context. There were two reasons for me wanting to interview him. Firstly, a fascination with the [work he is doing at Southampton, the particular possession-based style of play he believes so passionately in, the bonds he creates, and also my belief, as a football writer, that he is a manager with a very bright future.
Having been relegated last season and with a complete overhaul of their squad, Southampton are second in the Championship and are on a formidable run of 25 matches unbeaten. They also have the highest possession stats in Europe. Their football is demanding, compelling and takes âcourageâ, as Martin, who took over in the summer, puts it.
And, secondly, there was another reason. Something a little more personal. Last November Martin did a brilliant interview with David Walsh for The Sunday Times in which he talked about the domestic violence inflicted by his father, Dean, during his childhood. I, too, had a violent father, there were clear parallels in my mind, and Martinâs interview was incredibly powerful.
âThat interview upset a couple of people. Not people I am really close to and understand me but upset them because they felt no-one else needed to know. But I am comfortable with it. Itâs also part of healing,â Martin says as we talk in his office at Southamptonâs training ground.
âWhen you are honest, itâs really scary for some people. I have lost relationships along the way with friends and some family because they probably preferred the version of me when I tried to please everyone and do everything and fix everything and thatâs just impossible to attain.
âI sleep better at night, thatâs for sure. You have to accept the pain that comes with that. Itâs the same I have to accept the pain when we play that way and it goes wrong. The same when you work with a player for six months and it still doesnât quite happen. You have to accept that. Itâs f------ painful when you choose to be that. When you choose to feel everything, itâs really painful. Really painful.â
Tactics are not random â they are done with feeling
Having tracked Martinâs managerial career from MK Dons, where owner Pete Winkelman told him âI couldnât care less if you get relegatedâ as long as he did things his way, to Swansea City and to Southampton and without compromising on playing style I had originally intended to make this interview just an exploration and explanation of his football, why he is so committed to it and why he says he will never change.
Playing out from the back is one of the most âdivisiveâ â his word â tactics in football, for example, and Martinâs reasoning of why his teams do it is fascinating. âIn my view it is in order to get yourself to the oppositionâs final third with position, structure and control and to enable yourself to stay there as long as possible. So itâs not random,â he states. âBut tactics are nothing without feeling.â
Feeling is a word he often uses and it is clear what he does, and how he does it, is wrapped up in who he is, the trauma of his childhood, what he, his mother and brothers went through and how he has decided to conduct his life: the âauthenticityâ that he demands of himself. The curiosity, also.
âIt was a conscious decision to be myself,â Martin states.
âI believe my ulcerative colitis was caused by trying to please peopleâ
As a boy, the second youngest of four brothers, with two foster brothers, Martin was not an especially talented footballer but he was determined. His father was a gambling addict â the family lost their home because of it when Russell was eight â who was in and out of prison, and a violent man towards his wife, Kerry.
Martin was captain of every team he played for as right-back and centre-half, culminating with Norwich City, and had spotted a pattern. If a manager was âtoo niceâ, Martin would be the disciplinarian. If he was too strict, Martin would be âsoft with the ladsâ. He filled the gaps. He tried to be a âpleaserâ just as he had hoped, as a child, it would appease his father at home. He wanted to please him, calm him and make him proud.
âI didnât know when to say no. So, I would do everything to try and please everyone,â he says. âI had ulcerative colitis [inflamed bowel] really badly. I was taking all sorts of medication. I genuinely believe, I really do, that it was internalised stress because I went against my gut instinct so much. All the time. To try and please people. I didnât listen to my intuition, my feeling.â
Eventually Martin allowed that natural curiosity to take over. He became a vegan. He read up on Buddhism. He meditated, tried âbreathe workâ and hypnotherapy. He opened his mind.
Every day, at Southampton, he has an ice bath, he also uses a cryotherapy chamber near his home, he swims in the sea at Hove all year round, he sees a therapist once a week â âI am not looking for any answers. I chat with someone completely outside of any bias or judgementâ â and has spoken to psychologists and mind-set management people. At Southampton, Drewe Broughton, the former footballer, now the âfear coachâ comes in. âHeâs been great for us,â Martin says. âHeâs really worked himself out.â
âIâm not screaming and shouting at mistakes â but we need courageâ
During his own journey Martin formed his ideas of how, if he became a manager, he would have his teams play. In fact, there was a key game: the 2011 Champions League final at Wembley when Pep Guardiolaâs Barcelona took apart Manchester United. âThe best I have ever seen,â Martin says. âI was mesmerised.â He has watched it back several times.
Martinâs philosophy is simple: he wants to produce teams he would have loved to play in. It takes an incredible amount of hard work with 10-12 hour days with his staff and huge amounts of âdetailâ to the players. But it is based on âfeelingâ rather than through defined patterns of play. Unlike some coaches he does not use âmannequinsâ in training. âIt is not one to two to three [passing]. Itâs conceptual,â he explains. âWe always say to the lads we judge them on two things: courage and aggression with the ball and without it and so when people talk about the values of the team and the philosophy, really itâs to dominate the ball as much as you can and when you donât have it run really hard to get it back.
âItâs for me to feel it as much as they do so that when they make a mistake Iâm not screaming and shouting. To scream and shout at them when they donât show enough courage, thatâs the difference. To play this way takes the ultimate courage as a footballer.
âThe set-piece coach, Andreas [Georgson], who has just gone to Lillestrom [in Norway] as manager, came up with the best analogy ever: itâs like wetting yourself when you are freezing cold. It will warm you up, you will feel nice for a bit but then you will be way colder and in more pain.
âItâs the same here. If you take what you perceive to be the easy option â kick it or get trapped because you havenât done the right thing â itâs going to lead to a problem for us.â
For that reason Martin has one rule and one rule only: if any one player turns up late for training, every player has to run as punishment. âI say to them it relates to the pitch because if one person doesnât want to show for the ball then you are in trouble and if one person doesnât press properly we are all going to have to run more,â he explains.
âSo donât allow anyone to be late.â
It is also all part of the âconnectionâ he wants the players to feel for each other and for the staff. âFootball is a game that robs you of your identity because you have to conform to something that, a lot of the time, doesnât sit comfortably,â he says.
It is why he is untroubled by apparent dissent â as long as it is for the right reasons.
âStuey Armstrong [midfielder], I love, we have an amazing relationship,â he says. âBut every time I take him off he wants to kill me. He should be p----- off because he wants to be on the pitch. Am I going to criticise him? No chance. What am I supposed to tell him at that point? âDonât be p----- off? Donât show emotion?â Itâs not the right message.â
Messages are important. Martinâs father coached his sonsâ football teams and Russell remembers that the final words to him when he went out on the pitch were always the same: do not make a mistake.
And now he manages Southampton, under the immense pressure of trying to get them back into the top flight, with completely the opposite view.
âI played with so much fear. Where I got to in my career was so much fear-based. It can hold you back,â Martin says. âBut, also, people when they say they are fearless, thatâs not true. Everyone has fear at some level. I have fear that as a dad I am not going to be able to provide enough for my kids and give them the platform to be themselves. I fear with the players here that I donât give them enough detail to be able to go onto the pitch.
âOur job is to make sure they make as few mistakes as possible and thatâs by repetition, practising properly, being really demanding but also showing a lot of love and care for them.â
It is why, for example, he does not go too deep into analysing the opposition â beyond their set-pieces. Martinâs approach is to concentrate on his players and what they can do. âItâs not âthis teamâs amazing on the ball how do you stop themâ. Itâs about âwhat are we going to do to be the best version of ourselves this weekâ,â he says. âAt some point I may pay the price for that.â
Martin balanced his career with cleaning pubs and the local Spar
The 38-year-oldâs career into football was not easy. âImposter syndromeâ, unsurprisingly given his upbringing, was always a factor.
âFeeling completely out of my depth so much,â he explains. âSo that even writing off to every football club wasnât easy and getting three replies and choosing which one and ending up at Wycombe on trial [when at non-league Lewes FC] and within two weeks being with the first-team with [manager] Tony Adams. Imposter syndrome you have at that point is really uncomfortable. Cleaning pubs [aged 18] in the morning for the two years before that, cleaning windows with my uncle. You have to do certain things to get somewhere, donât you? I was always open to anything.â
In the evenings he worked in his local Spar, over the road from his home. He never became disillusioned or lost hope. âI tried to find joy, I genuinely did. When I was cleaning I really enjoyed being with the people I was cleaning with. It was good fun,â he says. âWhacked on The Beautiful South album which they had in Priors Letting agents in Hove, which is still there. They had a massive CD player but that was the only CD I could ever find. âOld Red Eyes is Backâ was my favourite song and I tried to enjoy everything as much as I could. Waking up at 4am wasnât great but I loved the people.
âPeople say that to me âWhy are you so positive?â I do believe that when you grow up in a certain way and you manage to make the best of it you can always⌠you have a choice. Pain is inevitable. And then, the Buddhist thing: there are two arrows. The first is pain. Everyone is going to experience pain. The second is suffering and everyone has a choice. Itâs completely different. You can choose to suffer and in the environment we were in we could have been victims â my brothers, my mum. Or you can choose it as an opportunity to learn and grow and try and steer away from something you donât want. Thatâs always been my mentality.â
âMy brothers are good dads â thatâs down to my mumâ
Remarkably, perhaps, his brothers have all also been successful. David and Pepe have a body shop and panel beating business and Jamie is an actor. âYeah, and good dads,â Martin says. âItâs really good. I am proud of them, really proud of them and thatâs down to my mum.â
When Martin became a father for the first time he âcried my eyes outâ. âI spoke to my big brother the other day,â he says. âWe went to our nonnaâs [his fatherâs Italian motherâs] funeral two, three months ago now and you look around and we are breaking the cycle. And hopefully our kids will keep changing it, keep evolving. Thatâs the plan. Thatâs the way I look at it. I want to protect my children from everything but thatâs not healthy. I want them to have a really comfortable life but there will be pain at times and not to over-parent.â
I nod in agreement.
âYouâre a fixer. Same as me,â Martin says. âThey need to work it out and I want them to have gratitude for what they have got. Without becoming a broken record: âWell, I didnât have thisâŚâ Itâs to make them aware they are very lucky. I talk to them about when I was a kid and my oldest goes âoh dad!â but they need to understand. They are very fortunate.â
Martinâs grandmother, the matriarch of the family to whom he was devoted, died last autumn. His father died four years ago. Martinâs mother stayed with him for 27 years before finally getting out, moving to London with his elder brother David, kicking their father out of the family home and looking after Russell and Pepe. Later, when he joined Wycombe, Martin lived with his mother. League Two Wycombe, where he signed for an initial three months, was his last hope in England, and he gave up a scholarship in the United States to risk it.
Martin talks to his children â aged 12, nine and eight â about his parents and it is tough when he speaks honestly about his own dad. âThey loved their granddad. He used to speak softly to them and bought them sweets. He was very different from the version I saw,â he says.
Empowerment at Southampton also comes with days off. âI want to see my kids. I want to see them play football on a Sunday. People say âwhat if you have a Tuesday game? Why are you not in on a Sunday?â and I say âI trust the guys. They will do what they need to recoverâ, Martin says.
He also encourages his players to have their own views; not to be that ârobotâ he was in the early part of his career. âItâs like the whole âconcentrate on your football, donât think about anything elseâ. Itâs not healthy,â he says.
âI created opportunity through curiosity, through a willingness to learn and take myself out of my comfort zone and work really, really hard. I do think you can create opportunity for yourself if you are willing to be uncomfortable and I was uncomfortable a lot of the time when I was younger. But I was also willing to drive through that and carry on.â
âI donât feel I disrespected the Prime Ministerâ
His honesty has occasionally got him into trouble â âI maybe need dragging back sometimes!â he admits â such as when he said he had âno interestâ in meeting the Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, a Southampton fan, [after the 2-1 win against Plymouth Argyle in December.]
âI donât feel like I was disrespectful,â Martin says. âI said what I felt at that time and I got told off for it a little bit! I donât mean him any ill will. But I got asked it four times and, at that point, I just wanted to talk about football and how good the players had been. We had just won again. So why were we talking about this? I said I hoped he enjoyed the game, I really did.
âWhat I said was not meant with any malice. People will take it how they want. I know heâs a fan and I know he spoke about me doing a good job recently, which is really nice. So hopefully he wasnât offended and people can move on.â
Martin has been a Labour voter in the past and is a former member of the Green Party â partly because âI became a bit disillusionedâ with politics but also through a friendship with his local MP, Caroline Lucas. Following her decision to step down at the next general election Martin supported Eddie Izzardâs unsuccessful bid to become the Labour candidate for Brighton Pavilion.
âI had a good chat with them and I really liked the passion to disrupt. Unfortunately it didnât work out. It will at some point,â he says. âAgain, I am not like set to one party. I like people who are passionate and want to disrupt things. Caroline was that.â
Has he ever considered politics?
âNo, I donât know how you can go into it and remain honest and authentic,â Martin says. âYou have to end up doing deals and compromising a little bit.
âI love people. I love energy. Maybe I will always be involved in football but if I am not, who knows? But if I am going to get sacked then I am going to get sacked doing something I love and really believe in. I am comfortable with that. I am not driven by fear of losing my job. My fear is not giving the players enough to enable them to give the best versions of themselves.â
Fuck, fuck, fucking, fuckety fuck. Iâm at Cheltenham Gold Cup that day. One of us has to win in the 5th Rd now.
IIRC arenât there two Gold Cups? YOu could go to the other one, nobody will remember anyway
Martin âdidnât sleep wellâ in anticipation of West Brom gamepublished at 09:15
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Southampton boss Russell Martin says he has lost sleep - but through âexcitementâ rather than because of the defeat by Bristol City.
The 3-1 loss at Ashton Gate on Tuesday night was the teamâs first in any competition since 23 September at Middlesbrough and ended a club record 25-match unbeaten run.
It also slipped the Saints back slipped to third in the Championship albeit with an instant chance to rebound against in-form West Bromwich Albion at the Hawthorns on Friday night.
âIâve really enjoyed the feeling amongst the players and it doesnât feel like there is any hangover [from the defeat],â said Martin. "Theyâre still together and smiling.
"They were frustrated after Tuesday, tired on Wednesday, but today it feels like we have moved on and weâre ready for another challenge.
âAsking me if this is the toughest week we have had, I genuinely donât know until the end of the season. Weâve had some tough weeks and weâre going to have some more very tough weeks moving forward.â
The Baggies have won 11 and only lost two of their 16 home games this season including five straight successes in front of their home fans. Martin though is unfazed.
âItâs a brilliant challenge for us and Iâm really excited about the game - I said that to the players,â Martin said. "I didnât sleep very well last night and itâs not through [thinking about the defeat], itâs about understanding what it takes. I didnât sleep well because of excitement.
"Iâm really pleased we have another game so quickly and Iâm excited about what the team can go and do.
âWe dust ourselves down and recover ourselves as best as possible and now itâs about going and putting it on the pitch once they step over the white line again. I have no doubt they will.â
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Manning upgrade inconing
I could do with a manning upgrade offshore EG
IE change the locals out with expats who know what they are doing.
What actually was the injury thatâs kept him out for a year and a half?
An ouchie or or a boo-boo?
Damn, thatâs 4 league games, including away to LeicesterâŚ
Serves us right for playing anyone little against Millwall. We should have just trawled the B teams for the biggest cloggers on the books, and told them to get stuck in.