This is happening now - lots of clients canāt be arsed so are mandating agency PAYE or umbrella co PAYE
I would change the way time is taken off of a sentence for good behaviour. If the sentence is 10yrs then that is what should be served
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Flip it - add time for misbehaving
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Yeah, but all the same, there are some dodgy operators out there and HMRC is already performing a similar function.
The only reason it hasnāt happened before is because they donāt want to give the impression that they approve of this kind of thing.
All of these firms are on an earner. There is no guarantee youāre getting the right advice or paying the right tax. Cut out the middleman.
Thing is its not time off for good behaviourā¦ its often mostly practical to ease overcrowding
However, it also depends on whether you view prison as simply punishment or as an opportunity to rehabilitate?
I feel it should be both, but if so then earning a right to earlier release through demonstrating you have learned etc, should not be removed.
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100%. I have never understood the reasoning for giving time off for good behaviour. They have committed a crime and need to serve the sentence. The encouragement for them to behave properly whilst inside should be to increase their sentence if they misbehave. Alternately, if they feel that a carrot is better than a stick, give them longer sentences in the first place so that if their behaviour warrants an early release, they still serve a sentence commensurate with their crime.
They have tried to removed the subjectivity by giving minimum and maximum terms for crimes which allows āobjectivityā depending on the seriousness of each particular offence which, of course, is where the problem often lies. I would argue that the minimum sentence for many serious crimes is too low to start with. We do have a system whereby a sentence can be appealed against if it is felt by the prosecution to be too lenient so there are checks and balances, but victims will often feel that a sentence is too low. Where do you start from? I would expect every one of us would have a difference of opinion about the minimum and maximum sentences for rape.
I agree there should be rehabilitation but when the stats show 75% reoffend within 9 yrs (almost 40% in the first year) I am not sure what the answer is. Should also add that I think rehabilitation should occur at the end of the sentence
The whole system needs a complete overhaul but I wouldnāt leave it in the hands of the likes of Johnson and Patel.
I know enough professional rascals that see ābirdā as an occupational hazard, and will see the time halved as a bonus.
I think itās fair enough first time out, but if youāre in and out of the nick I think longer sentences should be considered.
On the more serious crimes, agree. Itās not just about the offernderās rehabiliation. Itās about giving those people whoāve had lives destroyed a small measure of safety and justice. If theyāre let out early, theyāre potentially not safe and I donāt feel justice had been done.
Sentencing guidelines are definitely wrong. Bunch of people I went to school with were doing B&Qās over and had the book thrown at them. Non-violent. What theyād do is fill a trolley full of stuff up, take it out into the garden area and come back with bolt cutters later on at night, lifting the bounty. A couple of them got six years.
And yet a convicted nonce, well to do, same court, same month - 3 years.
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Arenāt there some states in the US that have a three strikes and out rule? After a third successful conviction you get a life sentence no matter what the offence? Seems harsh if it is just for littering but agree that persistent offenders should face longer sentences.
Yeah but thatās about locking black people up so they can legally do slave labour for a profit-making prison system.
Nothing to do with any semblance of a good law.
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The Ayatollah used to work at B&Q hq - she couldnāt believe the stock loss levels - people lobbing power tools over the garden area fences into the waiting arms of their mates - or filling up a trolley and running straight out the front door with it
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I would recommend the Secret Barrister on twitter and his/her books.
Prison isnāt the answer to all of the crimes really. If people re-offend for low level crimes Iād be looking at the reasons why. Poverty maybe?
Iām with @pap on the decriminalisation of drugs. Weāve wasted enough money on trying to stop it all. It would resolve a lot of issues around smuggling, trafficking, prostitution, gang wars and other low level crime to fund habits. The amount of police work in stop and searching young people for a tiny amounts of cannabis and the paper work (and then me reading the damn report and doing nothing with it).
I think we had a thread on this didnāt we, werenāt most for decriminalisation?
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Yeah think there may have been. So many threads. Hard to remember them all.
We do, and for that reason I wonāt repeat too much of my old rhetoric here.
It is what Iād change though.
I donāt remember voting on this subject.
I must have been stoned.
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Ditto
I still must be, responding a week laterā¦