Sexual Abuse at SFC

Very sorry to hear that sir

Originally posted by @TheCholulaKid

I’m not riding on anyone’s coat tails - if you read back through the thread it appeared to be perfectly obvious to several other posters. including CF, what point I was making. I wasn’t calling you out exclusively. Nobody else reacted in the same way as you (see Cherts’ Brasseye reference for proof positive of that).

You’ve already shown yourself up more than once on this thread. You should probably quit while you’re behind.

I said:

ā€œSeriously sick shit. The lengths some of these creeps go to is fucking insane. I mean, surely it isn’t a case of pedophiles just happening to be keen on football coaching and taking their grisly chance when it comes - these sickos must have obviously pursued the career in order to gain access to kids. I know that sounds like a stupidly obvious point but the calculating nature of it really creeps me outā€

And you said:

ā€œā€˜Sickos’, ā€˜scumbags’ and ā€˜mega-pedo’. It’s like a Daily Express editorial meeting in here. Just need ā€˜twisted’ for the full house.ā€

I don’t know, if I wanted to make a point about the tone of discussion being counterproductive, particularly on a topic as sensitive and naturally emotive as paedophilia, I’d make pretty damn sure I took the time to express myself as clearly and unambiguously as possible.

I don’t know. Maybe you do indeed find paedophilia mildly irksome, but your initial reaction, and your apparent prioritisation of the words used to describe paedophiles, rather than, y’know, actual paedophilia, was quite something.

Right. Back on track.

Unbelievably this guy wasn’t checked later when he went to work at another football team.

Could be an example you mentioned where people with no convictions falling through the gaps, from the looks of that article he was cleared of previous allegations in 1992, and it would seem that not working directly with kids meant no CRB/DBS checks.

I will also add that despite very suspicious circumstances this man has been found guilty of nothing yet, and that hopefully a full investigation will get to the truth and an appropriate outcome.

On a sidenote do we need a question mark on the title thread?

Coming to this a bit late been moving so interweb & time troubles.

Genuine question.

Have other EU Nations found such nests" of abuse in the way the UK has? Politicos, Saville, football?

Going back to that Era UK was such a repressed nation - Mary Whitehouse et al. Did that help keep things ā€œbehind closed doorsā€ nudge nudge style?

Obviously safeguards are supposed to be in place now, but are they? The Asians grooming young girls in Rotherham.

Is it actually better now? Do the safeguards work? Do Brits now get their kicks from Internet porn or is that all just gone Dark Web.

Interested to know your thoughts gang.

even le tiss is saying he got a dubious massage

I don’t know where to start with this horrendous episode but fair play Pap, for your honesty on here.

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It would seem a few clubs(at least) have been involved in covering this up.

Separately, a lawyer representing a new body supporting victims said ā€œcalls and emails are coming in all the timeā€ from players claiming to have been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements with clubs in return for compensation. ā€œCertainly, the allegations have been made by victims that confidentiality clauses have been used in relation to other clubs but I’m not in a position to independently verify this,ā€ said Edward Smethurst, who also chairs the Madeleine McCann Fund. ā€œIt’s unfolding as we speak. It’s a number. It’s several (but) less than five.ā€ The claims come after Chelsea FC apologised to former player Gary Johnson for the abuse he suffered as a trainee in the 1970s, having waived the confidentiality clause in a Ā£50,000 agreement they made with him last year.

I would hope that any club found guilty of covering this up, faces serious consequences, including our own.

Last year Chelsea were still attempting to pay for silence about child abuse. That’s fucking sick.

I worry that the recent actions of Chelsea hint that there is a lot more to come out.

Don’t think so.

I can’t shake the image of pap hanging from a coat hook. It’s prob one of those things that are only funny in the abstract tho, it’s not until you see the grim reality of it, that you realise the full horror. Like Brexit.

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When I read this, was I the only one thinking, that it was Bob Higgins that was naked when giving the massage… now that would have sent alarm bells off even as a teenager!

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Slightly off topic i know, but this morning we have reports that hundreds of police officers have been accused of sexual abuse. No wonder they were reluctant to pursue the complaints against Saville and various bigwigs in Westminster and beyond! What the fuck is wrong with this country!

In all aspects of life, power has a corrupting influence, for some it’s financial, for some sexual, for some control, for some status…in all cases those without power or influence are those that are exploited. Everyone has seen it in one form or another…working in an office for 40 years, I’ve seen it all to some degree. It’s appalling…but it’s sadly not surprising.

Dear God!

:astonished:

This does not get any better, unsurprisingly :pensive:

nope - at least the club are facing up to it and without too much obvious wriggling

Indeed. I meant the (confirmation) of our past inaction