Actually the deficit was there before the Tories
It was Tony Blairâs spend it like beckham in the good years instead of paying down the debt that really cause problems, so when the financial crisis hit there was nothing left
My beef re pensions is that they are likely to atttack private sector pensions and not address the real issue which is unsustainable public sector final benefit schemes
And donât give it the stop taking pot shot line - a few months back, you were that person. Labour will be as bad as the Tories, just in a different way. They just havenât had enough time yet to fuck it up
Those were stopped years ago werenât they? At least mine was in about 2015
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LOL you are so Tory itâs almost embarrassing
Iâm personally vey proud that Iâm very socialist in my leanings and my firm is run on doing the right thing for everyone - not the selfish whatâs in it for me,me, me, me.
Will take a pop at anyone and everyone who still donât see the mess we are in and are still trying to put the blame on a Labour administration who were in place 14 years ago
Anyone who is in it just for themselves (& their family tbf) need to - and as I said before - give their head a wobble.
Labour havenât fucked it up - yet, and they probably will like all governments - give them a chance to sort out the Tory fuck up, eh?
Pathetic fucking comedy gold IMHO obvs 
Sorry, you do realise that most final salary schemes (private and public sector) either have been closed, have reduced accrual rates so they can remain viable i.e. less benefits) or maybe have a DC underpin.
Yes some have big assets, to fund future pensions (many are in deficit so potentially not able to pay full pensions to future pensioners - you are aware of this of course, right?).
The Govt are apparently looking to make it worthwhile for pension funds to be investing to grow the economy, rather than rape utility companies like Thames Water for dividends- though the company is complicit in that.
The vast majority of people in the UK these days (private and public sector) are now relying on DC pension schemes for a pitiful future pension (especially the youngsters) - spend a little time researching it, you might learn something. Itâs not a bed of roses ffs.
Happy to trade blows on stuff like this - which should be important to the majority ( though most have their heads in the sand), not those who, like you (I assume from your posts) who are relatively well off - if you want.
Jeez.
If only you lot had a benevolent dictatorship instead of crooks
How are they likely to âattack private sector pensionsâ?
I suspect that has been doing the rounds for at least the last 14 years.
If it was available to you would you take it - not the OAP allowance?
Iâd probably balance up the value of ÂŁ3400 a year against the publicity potential of retaining my own heating allowance while presiding over the withdrawal of heating assistance for pensioners. So in her position, no, I wouldnât.
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I didnât mean if you were her more about if it was offered to you by an employer.
Would you really turn it down then?
Of course I wouldnât, if I wasnât in an employment position that would render it hypocritical for me to take it.
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So itâs also ok as long as you arenât a named Labour politician?
My guess is that had a Tory Chancellor removed the pensioners heating allowance, you might not be tying yourself up quite so soundly in the minutiae of it over a similar meme pointing out his hypocrisy. 
Meh. Your opinion. Largely incorrect to be honest, but donât let me stop you 
Iâm just hoping @CB-Saint doesnât spot this blatant example of your own partisan bluster. 
Heâs more than welcome to take a pop - as is anyone else, free forum.
In other news about Rupes and Fartage those Reform paragons of virtue:
Keeping it classy and gaslighting
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Crace also mildly criticises the Green Party for their temerity in having their own say, but that doesnât make the Grauniad a politically neutral agency.
Theyâre not, thatâs the beauty of having an intelligent counterpart to the Daily Heil and Torygraph etc 
