:labour: 🌅 Red Dawn - Life Under Labour

Anyone has to be a plus.

Problem is that between them Starmer and McSweeney have stitched things up so that the only choice will be more of the same, they have kicked out just about all members who are remotely left wing.It will almost certainly be the treacherous little rat Streeting, who has made no secret of his craving for the top job. Problem they will have with that is, if anything he is more despised than Starmer, came very close to losing his safe seat at the last election, scraping home by the seat of his pants with just a 500 vote majority. So it would be swapping the devil for old nick. Andy Burnham isn’t an MP, and would be denied a seat, his people have complained that McSweeney and co have been briefing against him on almost a daily basis for the past year. My choice would probably be Clive Lewis, but he would face the same problems, plus he certainly wouldn’t be approved by Tel Aviv, which, like it or not is where the final decisions on these matters are made. Anyone who believes otherwise is very naive and has not been paying attention to the way the Labour Party is run these days, where Starmer and his Cabinet Minister’s financial backing comes from etc. Our Home Secretary alone has received £200k from Israeli sources over the past few years, and of course for this kind of dosh they would have been consulted, and probably been given the yay or nay regarding our government’s Middle Eastern policies, both at home and abroad.
As it stands the government at the moment are in a bind, sooner or later MPs are going to have to face the fact that Starmer personally is intensely disliked by the general public, I don’t know one person, regardless of their politics who will admit to liking the man. This won’t change, there is nothing he can do about it. People see him as untrustworthy, phony, dishonest with an extremely suspect personal life to say the least. At the moment an election is far away but as time ticks on by Labour MPs will start to panic as they realise their seats are at risk, as are their tickets on the gravy chain as a result of his unpopularity. If they don’t act Starmer and Co’s legacy will be the destruction of the Labour Party as we know it. Sometimes I don’t think it is too far fetched to believe that this has been the plan of his backers all along.

Oh, and Phil. The Daily Mail’s that way >>>.

True, could always be Net a yard pooh who takes over - he paid for it after all

I’m not sufficiently naive to doubt that external bodies shape our politics, but if it were solely Tel Aviv running the show then Starmer surely wouldn’t have been so busy toadying to Islam? :thinking:

I’ll give it to Labour, they are efficient - it took the Tories at least ten years to fuck it up completely and even then it took a financial crisis, Brexit, Covid and an energy driven inflation crisis

When i look at a PM, whether i like them or not, doesn’t really come into any judgement I make on them. The same applies to all MP’s. But i do care whether they’ve got the bollocks to do something about the mess they either create or inherit. So far this cabinet has done fuck all about the promises they made in the run up to the last election. It’s bizarre, that the Country overwhelmingly voted the Tories out because they’d had enough of them, giving Labour a real chance. Just like 97. But unlike 97, Labour don’t have the leadership or cabinet to actually embark upon making changes. Missed a terrific opportunity and they’ll never get the time back.
They have to pull their fingers out, but they’re so hamstrung by their own ineptitude, i can’t see them being anything other than lightweight, vague and pandering to an increasingly emboldened back bench who will be an increasing influence on decisions.

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Corbyn has all but ensured that reform will win next time round

His new party will split the left as reform split the right - who here will leave labour and move over

I still will not be allowed to vote bastards.

There’s a new party called bastards?

I would re-phrase that to Starmer has all but ensured that Reform will win next time round. He has to take responsibility for a formation of a new left of centre Party with his decision to expel or disenfranchise countless thousands of long term Labour workers, supporters and voters because they were considered socialists. Sent on their way with the comment that we are just “shaking off the fleas”, (remember that?) What on earth did he expect. All the words of the wise before the election, " Starmer is just pretending to be a Tory until he gets elected, then he will revert back to traditional Labour." That didn’t age well! Regarding this new Party, I don’t think Corbyn will be ‘front of house’ so to speak, he will be one of many in the background formulating policy and organizing. Of course he will still be demonized by The Mail, Express, Telegraph et al, and the Labour Party establishment, but it won’t have anything like the effect it did before, especially the Anti-Semitism slurs, that won’t work any more, everyone has seen footage of the horror stories and slaughter coming out of Gaza. Already most of the usual suspects are noticeably quiet on that front and keeping their heads down. David Gilmour and his gobby wife among many who seem to have lost their tongues!
There is a long way to go until the next election, and it is by no means certain that Reform will continue their momentum, stories coming out daily now exposing rogues and criminals in Farage’s limited company. The closer it gets, the more they will be exposed as being totally unfit and incapable of running a government. It would be a shitshow. And if they do defy all this and get elected, Starmer and Co must take the credit.

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all of them

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Reform won’t win next time round, or ever. It’ll be the same old shite, Labour or Tory, just like it’s always been in our lifetimes. It might need a coalition although it probably won’t, but the net result will still be the same. Tories or Labour in power. Even when literally the entire country hates the fucking guts of both of them, they still get in.

I think he’s on the hook for a lot more than that.

He is repeatedly giving us Liz Truss as an attack-line, conveniently forgetting that his plan to lose a second General Election on purpose, announced unilaterally at the Labour Party conference befrore he was leader, led to her elevation and the increase of mortgage payments.

I don’t see how he has the frtont to blame the Tories for anything when he put them back into power in 2019 with his “idiotic” second referendum pledge.

* Idiotic in quotes because it was all part of the plan.

I think the problem for the country is that was the only plan he had.

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Another really convincing 10 minutes from Richard Murphy…

This.

The Junior doctors are going on strike again - this time they want 29%

They got 22% last year and have been offered 5.4% this year

I think they might be overplaying their hand with public sympathy this time

But it’s only so they can catch up with years of getting under inflation rises etc. etc. etc. etc

And now Labour have learnt what happens when you roll over and let the unions tickle your tummy

And when streeting hands over a load more, they will be back again demanding yet another double digit pay rise

Any mega pay rise has to be conditional on giving up some of 23% pension contributions - not sure that when this scheme was devised it was meant to make pension millionaires out of people

I think that Diane Abbott has found her way back to the Home Office. Starmer has announced a one in one out deal with France on illegal migrants, so we can now return 50 per week for every 800 that come in