Scruffy fucker
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I hope you replied with: “At least I have hair you odious cunt.”
i would vote for Ian Austin srs, he talks a lot of sense.
Move to Dudley and the dream can be fulfilled.
Assuming of course, the tit doesn’t get deselected 
I am in Dudley as we Speak srs. Do you want me to pop round his house + do a Dirty Protest?
I would be remiss in my duties if I did not mention the antisemitism reports this week. It’s been reported that “Corbyn’s Labour” has a real problem with the issue.
This article details every single case, including Naz Shah’s.
Interesting that they’re trying to paint Shah as representative of Corbyn’s Labour. She was installed prior to the 2015 election, over the objections and polling of the local party, specifically to defeat George Galloway. I’d be entirely unsurprised if she didn’t have some strident views about Israel, and entirely unsurprised if that’s the reason central HQ picked her.
Red Ken making waves again
Sadly some find it difficult to distinguish between anti-semitism and anti-zionism
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I was listening to this discussion on the radio this morning. They were claiming that Naz Shah’s anti-semitism was racist. I was wondering how Jewish people can be ragrded as a race. Jews can come from all sorts of races, can’t they? Just like Muslims and Christians and any other religious group. She might be bigoted, but I’m not sure they can call her racist…
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Baroness Neuberger is unfortunately one of them, deliberately conflating the term last night.
It really doesn’t help, nor does a general lack of understanding of what Zionism is. As most will know, I read a lot of history. I’ve read tons of accounts of the 20th century, and I’ve also read a bit of history written by Israelis.
Both accounts happened, but they’re like oil and water when it comes to trying to put them together. Livingstone is being hauled across the coals for things that you can find in accounts by Israeli historians. Revelations of Zionist collaboration with Nazis brought an Israeli government down, FFS.
This really isn’t good for Labour though. The best that can emerge from it is that conditions are created so that we can have a proper debate on the influences of Israel in UK policy-making.
A school mate of mine and intiniki’s used to run Labour Friends of Palestine and the Middle East. He told me that Labour Friends of Israel spent £10m lobbying to get their candidates in place. Perhaps then, it’s not a surprise that politicians from Jewish backgrounds are over-represented by a factor of eight, relative to their population in the UK. The organisation also spends loads of cash bringing politicians out to Israel, giving them a happy path tour of the place.
The conflation of antisemitism and anti-zionism hasn’t happened by accident. It’s engineered. A couple of examples. The new NUS President was immediately branded both an antisemite and an IS supporter by elements of the Israel lobby. She got the antisemite tag because she had described Birmingham Uni as being full of Zionists. The IS supporter tag was somewhat more ridiculous. She got that because she refused to back a notion against ISIS. What wasn’t reported was that she held back on signing the motion because she thought the language had a go at all Muslims. As soon as it was amended, she signed it. The conclusion was never reported.
Naz Shah’s offensive Facebook image was witless, but it was a meme going around at the time the Israelis were barrelling into Gaza. You really have to take several leaps, assuming worst intent at each point, to assume that the image she shared meant she wanted the extermination of all Jewish people.
Finally, people are getting called antisemitic for even suggesting that there is an Israeli lobby. If you want a decent example of how sensitive it is to incidents like this, and how easily things get blown up, just take a look at :-
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Just a bit more on this. Livingstone now suspended. He was a tit for saying that Hitler was a Zionist - it was needlessly provocative. He was correct to point out collaboration though. This link at the bottom is a description of the Haavara Agreement, which ran from 1933 to the start of the war.
The source is described by Wikipedia as such:-
The Jewish Virtual Library ( JVL ) is an online encyclopedia published by the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise(AICE), one of whose “principal objectives is to enhance Israel’s image by publicizing novel Israeli approaches to problems common to both our nations and illustrating how Americans can learn from these innovations.”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08075.html
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Fantastic statement from Jewish Socialists’ Group.
Accusations of antisemitism are currently being weaponised to attack the Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour party with claims that Labour has a “problem” of antisemitism. This is despite Corbyn’s longstanding record of actively opposing fascism and all forms of racism, and being a firm a supporter of the rights of refugees and of human rights globally.
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The accusations do not refer to antisemitic actions but usually to comments, often made on social media, long before Jeremy Corbyn won the Labour leadership. Those making the charges now, did not see fit to bring them up at the time, under previous Labour leaders, but are using them now, just before mayoral and local elections, when they believe they can inflict most damage on the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn.
The attack is coming from four main sources, who share agendas: to undermine Jeremy Corbyn as leader of Labour; to defend Israeli government policy from attack, however unjust, racist and harmful towards the Palestinian people; and to discredit those who make legitimate criticisms of Israeli policy or Zionism as a political ideology. As anti-racist and anti-fascist Jews who are also campaigning for peace with justice between Israelis and Palestinians, we entirely reject these cynical agendas that are being expressed by:
• The Conservative Party
• Conservative-supporting media in Britain and pro-Zionist Israeli media sources
• Right-wing and pro-Zionist elements claiming to speak on behalf of the Jewish community
• Opponents of Jeremy Corbyn within the Labour party.
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I wonder what Labours friends of Israel’s Luciana Berger our own MP here in Liverpool thinks?
She bundled into him almost straight away. Said that there is no hierarchy of racism and that his comments have no place in the Labour Party.
I’ve seen people on Twitter asking all these Labour MPs to expand on exactly what it was that was so offensive. No answers on specifics.
With John Mann’s performance today, smells like an attempted coup. Fuck up the elections, and get Corbyn out.
Labour will always trip up itself on this, fire back what do Muslims think of gays and womens rights, religion to blame again, ban religion and no drama and shite for people to follow.
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And yet, the last two contenders for the leadership prior to Corbyn’s election as leader were both Jewish, which shows that it must be the party of antisemites. As I said earlier, the hope is that we actually get to have a proper debate and disambiguation of all the issues surrounding Israel and Palestine.
The procession of Blairite MPs making as much noise about this as humanly possible makes me consider the coup angle seriously.
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50% of the of the Jewish labour candidates who stood for election for leader before Corbyn were rejected. Read into that what you will.
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What percentage of non-jewish candidates were rejected, bet it was a higher percentage!!
The Independent have collected everything Ken Livingstone has said today and put them all in transcripts.
My earlier comment about him calling Hitler a Zionist was incorrect. He actually didn’t. Just said that Hitler supported Zionism, which he most certainly did.