:labour: New Old Labour in trouble

I applaud Mellor. Being such an ugly cunt and still managing to ‘score 4 times in one night’ with said actress is a top result. Is he the ‘Marcus Rashford’ of Westminster Tory sex scandals? (although perhaps Lineker would capture the Zeitgeist of the time - although did Lineker ever score 4times in one night?)

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Wow, the models used to wear clothes back then too…now she’d be appearing on CBB and smoking a fag out of her clunge

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It is a top result, very true, but he’d probably prefer being called the Kerry Dixon of Westminster sex scandals, imho.

She was alright, that bird. But I doubt very much whether she would have let him hang out the back of her 4 times in one night if he worked on the dust, Chelsea top or not.

She looked very similar to the very first GF I had back in the mid 80’s. she was a dirty old bag of carrots too.

Not sure whether this belongs in the Tory or Labour thread but another shocking performance from May at PMQs today. She sneered and jibed her way through answers to serious questions, specifically about housing where her government has an absolutely appalling record. 1 in 5 houses sold through RtB is being replaced (which May lied about in her rebuttal) with more and more people being forced into the private rented sector. Corbyn is absolutey right to be pressuring her on this and I thought a good performance from him today, sticking to his point. Nearly 10bn p/a in housing benefit to those in rented properties is unforgivable when you think of what could be built with the same amount of money.

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She’s getting shite because she tried mocking Jezza’s question from the public approach, quoting a Twitter user that had said some vile things in the past.

Leaving the vile stuff aside, is she really that inept that she has to verbally retweet randoms in the HoC?

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The short answer is yes, the long answer will require a few more beers for me tonight…

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Corbyn should stick at it. May is just looking like the traditional ‘up her own arse’ sneering politician.

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Whoever writes her appalling attempts at humour should be executed - I’ve had more laughs at a Michael McIntyre gig.

A serious question demands a serious answer, not a joke written by a retarded chimp.

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Originally posted by @Rallyboy

Whoever writes her appalling atempts at humour should be executed - I’ve had more laughs at a Michael McIntyre gig.

A serious question demands a serious answer, not a joke written by a retarded chimp.

Well, one of them was apparently doing it for free, unaware that his tweet was being ripped off by the PM for a cheap jibe. I’m still a little amazed at that this morning.

That’s the fucking PM. Or at least, is supposed to be. I think it might be the least impressive I’ve seen in my lifetime, certainly at this stage in the career.

Is PMQs a total waste of time? What does it actually acheive that some other format couldn’t? Are we clinging to tradition at the expense of a more effective way of holding the government to account?

We get to see how empty, shallow and undeserving of power Conservative Prime Ministers are?

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Ah, this contest has provided some interesting clashes :lou_lol:

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I’m afraid I’m on the government’s side on this one.

Definitely, this is a very good thing.

Disagree on grammar schools. The point to comprehensive education is getting to mix with all people. I don’t like the idea of creating elites at such a young age, and although I think we need to do more for smart kids, this isn’t the way to do it.

Comprehensives shouldn’t be a bar to achievement.

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Grammar schools may have been OK in the past (I went to one and I come from a working class family) and the admission criteria were fairly fair but these days? No way! I live in Buckinghamshire and the 11+ is still in operation. It’s supposed to be tutor proof but it isn’t so you have the ridiculous situation where not very able but privately educated children are tutored to within an inch of their little lives and just about scrape into a grammar school whereas a bright child from a family that can’t afford private tuition fails to ‘pass’. Most of the gram’mar school places in our county go to children from the prep schools both in and out of county and the schools are SO selective they pick such children at the expense of local children who’ve achieved the pass mark. Why the fuck should my taxes go towards educating a child from another county when that money should be spent on the underresourced schools in my area.

What worries me too is that children tutored to ‘pass’ this wretched exam often struggle at the highly competitive grammar schools. Not only must this make them feel inadequate - it also holds back their peers’ progress.

Incidentally, Buckinghamshire has one of the worst performing secondary sector in spite of the primary sector performing well. Perhaps that’s because a significant proportion of the overall budget gets channelled to the select few

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My daughter’s best mate moved over the water and attended one of the grammar schools still extant. Exactly as you describe, Ruth. Loads of effort on tutors for entrance exams, etc. My daughter attended the comprehensive she’d have gone to if they hadn’t moved. Their results were broadly similar, but I’m pleased to report that the comp just about shaded it.

In perhaps a sign of the elitism that infests our society, my eldest daughter goes to Kings, which no matter what she says about her specific department, ain’t troubling the top ten anytime soon. Several of her co-students expressed incredulity at her comprehensive school background.

“You’re from a comp? What was that like?”

“I’m fucking here, aren’t I?”

That’s my state-educated girl.

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Is Owen Smith a watered down Donald Trump?

He’s rude and tactless, insulting towards women, and running a pointless campaign that’s pretty much destined to lose. A horrible possibility is emerging. For all his claims to be the sensible, rational, normal man bringing Labour back to electability, could Owen Smith be the British version of Donald Trump?

On the most immediate level, once you start looking into it, the similarities are astounding. Both are, for instance, very sensitive about their masculine endowment and sexual performance. At a Republican debate in March this year, Trump denied any implication that his tiny, weak little hands meant he had a tiny, weak little dick. “I guarantee you there’s no problem,” he said. “I guarantee.” Smith’s references to his own honourable member have been more oblique, but no less defensive. At an event the other week in Hull, when told a member of the public had a personal question, he pointed at his crotch and said “29 inches”, before adding “inside leg”. (Before audio recordings were leaked, his campaign team tried to claim that he was absolutely not referring to his knob, in which case the joke simply makes no sense.) Great banter, obviously, but he can’t take it as well as he can dish it out.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/owen-smith-is-a-watered-down-trump

Not sure how you ever fix this problem. Parents pay over the odds for houses in certain catchments to ensure their kids get into a high performing school eg Thornden, it then becomes self perpetuating as only wealthier families can live in the area to the exclusion of poorer families. Surely grammer schools could alleviate this to some extent