Naz Shah, is it true?

You face palmed? Really? There is a bit of a common theme in many of your posts which seem to contain that condescension in an effort to convey a sense of wiser intellect… you write and present your opinions eloquently and in a well reasoned way so it’s really not necessary… anyway, I could also face palm as you have completely missed the point of what is a simplistic cartoon. It’s not about ‘missing’ the point of the. Spirit of the law, nor in dimissing the value in countering hate and vile with reasoned and compelling responses - I have consistently talked about ignorance being the mother of hate and it is only through education that it can be overcome. That starts with the very intelligent response you highlight. But this cartoon is not about that. It’s simply about countering those who cry ‘freedom of speech’ when excluded for other reasons. There are times and places where the constant presence of loudly voiced hateful and vitriolic, racist or bigoted opinion is simply not appropriate. Would you want to have such debate at every meal time if one of you kids was a racist? The ‘spirit’ might be to counter at every opportunity, but there is truth in ‘time and place’ to have more effective and rational debate. I just happen to find it disappointing that Barry attempts to weave in his transparent opinions into virtually every thread no matter what… especially when it’s just Trolling . In which case that cartoon is apt. Trolling is just folks being arseholes for their own amusement, and there is no legal or spirit of the law that means folks should feel morally obliged to listen or read it.

As an aside there is also a philosophical argument to be had about how much voice you give to those who are intolerant . A debate that says we should not tolerate the intolerant as if we do they ultimately win… which brings the US issue of Sinclair media. The law says there is no issue, but is it right that such a large majority of media outlet can in effect be a vehicle for a narrow and unpleasant agenda? When there is no opportunity to counter what is braid cast into your home?A propaganda vehicle? Yes it provides opportunity to educate your kids against this but what when you are not there? Do you simply turn it off , or should the merger be banned in the first place? Both of these are outside the spirit which you rightly point out is what we should be advocating.

You haven’t even commented on Naz Shah and the possibilities of what this means, just deflecting waffle of why you’d deny something as you don’t agree with it, that’s totalitarian and quite near what you don’t like.

You’re in a quandary aren’t you?

lols Bazza… you really are a pice of work. Like one of those animals that wont let go even if beaten half to death. I have not commented on Nah Shah because I have not had anytime to read the various links and actually find out some facts as opposed to you who offered speculative garbage to initiate another trolling session. As to your ‘blah blah blah totalitarian waffle…’ its this kind of idiotic incomprehensible trolling that I am talking about … I dont need to read or listen to your trolling bullshit if I chose not to… you are free to spout as much bollocks as you like, but as you are doing so merely to irritate like a fucking big dose of piles, rationale debate has no impact on you - you are not here to exchange POVs and maybe learn something with an open mind, you are here to wind up… so like I said, have all the free speach you like, but don’t be surprised if folks just call it out for what it is… fucking garbage with consistent prejudiced undertones to wind up and irritate… It’s just a mystery to me how anyone over the age of 14 gets any amusement from trolling… obviously not getting laid enough…

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So we’re on page 5* of another non-story FFS.

This one has legs?? :lou_facepalm_2:

*Copy/Paste from page 2

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I’m married with two kids of course I’m not getting laid enough.

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Here you go then, the Sun again sorry will probably be blocked by Liverpool IPs

A spokesman for Ms Shah said: “This was a genuine accident eight days ago that was rectified within minutes. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense.

“Her record speaks for itself. Naz has been working for over 20 years on the issues of child abuse, violence against women and grooming, which is well documented.

“She has and will continue to advocate for all victims, and work towards eradicating this evil from society.”

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Well you must of done it twice at least. Lucky bastard.

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I did it twice and I have 3 kids!!!

She has form as people like to say on here, the question is do you believe her? She could like a post accidentally? I wonder how pitying the liberals would be if the shoe was on the other foot with the form she has?

Bazza on the money once again.

There is your answer then Barry. Time to find another cloud to shout at.

She’s not happy with Barry…

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Over achiever…

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More events cancelled at the behest of a foreign government.

Israel seems to take David Icke seriously, even if no-one else does.

https://twitter.com/ssafehands/status/900640607697334272

Probably best to let him think that.

Why was Sarah Champion sacked for being correct and Naz Shah isn’t for continuous “mistakes”?

Liberals please feel free to tie yourself up in knots and contradict yourself at every turn.

You are like a stuck record Barry. No wonder Chutters calls you a WUM. Where did you learn to interact with other people? At the Donald Trump Institute For WUMs?

Persistent and painful arse grapes springs to mind…

And the first of the mark waiting like a poacher for his pheasant is SOG, answer the question, it’s a fair and valid question and it’ll be asked nationwide so I doubt it’s wumming hun xx

It is a bit rich having a pop about answering a question. How many do you duck out of (did you like the duck referrence there to go with your pheasant)?

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