Have we made any progress, post-Cortese?

They announced them in 2014. Ridiculed at the time on podcasts, as I recall.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27387616

Name a same sized club with more trophies? There must be dozens of them according to you.

We geta mute Chinese bloke and a woman who’s eaten too many of them and the sad part is they’re laughing at us.

The JPT was a great game. I enjoyed it because one of my top Liverpool muckers is from Whitehaven and is a Carlisle fan. They won it soon after, bless.

Besides, it gives us a chant we can use against the bigger clubs when they start giving it the large about their multiple achievements.

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Ok Barry. Time to log off.

It was but that comfort blanket of “achievement” when it really should be seen as failure sums the club and its fans up, a day out in London for countryfolk etc etc, I want more than that and any ambitious person wanting the best for their club would.

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We were ten points down before we started that season. We actually had a proper go at promotion that year. I think I might have been watching Saints in the stands when I realised we finally weren’t going to do it, but we had a valiant go at it. The JPT was the one competition we could realistically win, and weren’t hampered in. Put those points back on and we not only made the playoffs in theory, but we actually won something.

So yep, achievement in that context? I’d take that. What else we we realistically winning that season?

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True but the failure beforehand? Similar to the bigger teams not wanting to win the Europa, its a nuisance, its also arrogance but who cares.

Why bigger? Let’s have a go anyway.

Since 1863, and as founder members of the Football League, Stoke have won one major trophy, the League Cup in 1972.

A larger population and 23 years longer to win trophies, seems to fit.

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I suspect in Olden Times we used to be a smaller club than we are right now. I think we’re deffo due though! If there is any justice in the world, we should be awarded FA Cup this season imo.

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Two teams in the six towns that make Stoke upon Trent, no cigar son.

Port Vale? You’re desperate.

Palace & Naarch are the two ppl used to mention on Saintsweb iirc, when it came to discussing similar trophy dodging histories

  • Coventry.
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I would like to name another team but I am at work and therefore vaguely busy so I will jump straight to the conclusion that Barry is a dumbass.

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Not bigger than us.

Norwich no and won League Cup twice.

Palace, no smaller.

So it proves Ralph was right and we are a “small” club. Next?

Why not bigger? Much larger population, so what do you base that on, how much they have won?

You can’t lose with that kind of thinking, but it does go a long way to proving @goatboy correct.

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Club size and number of trophies… I suspect that those that obsess about such things have limited success with the opposite sex and need to employ ‘handies’ to get relief.

Come on, since when has supporting saints ever been about chasing success. Fuck its cool to support a shit team with an empty trophy cabinet because we aint so far up oursleves to give a fuck. We can hand on heart say we are not some glory hunters, but support our local side whatever level we are at.

Its also a bit ironic that most fans know that in the modern game, success is 99% cash, unless you do things differently - yet when we try to do things differently whether with SCW, vision coaches, or obsessives like Cortese, they are the ‘cunts’ who know ‘nuffink’ about the game because they don’t offer to suck off fans as the half time enteratinment… and are doing alien things… We want success, but without paying for it, Yet we want to spend money that we dont have, unless its the owners money we dont have, we dont like owners who keep sacking managers, yet dont like owners who dont when we think its right to do so… we want players to stay, but call them all sorts of shit when they fuck up … We think 442 is old school, unless 4231 or 433 or 352 or whatever is not working and ask why are we not going 442… I could go on.

Some things are worth getting fucked off about; millions of kids dying of preventable disease or hunger, poverty in the UK, racist cunts in the Oval office etc… my club who I love going through a shit phase is annoying, but it aint something I am losing sleep over. Fuck, if I wanted success, would I have chosen Saints? I aint that stupid!

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