Home later than planned Numptyboi, but have a day off booked for tomorrow, so I want to get this down for you now, so it’s there for you to read in the morning.
Originally posted by Numptyboi
I know sweet FA about the case, so I ask this question only becasue I am interested. If the McCanns had topped the poor little girl, or found her dead in the apartment, how would they have got away with leaving a body for 28 days behind the sofa in a rented apartment, with coppers crawling all over it and then to be free from enough suspicion to be able to blag a body (with 28 days decay) in the middle of the night into a motor to dispose of it?
I can see how my post gave that impression, but obviously, that is not the way it all panned out. 
As mentioned, I was fairly inebriated at the time, and simply didn’t clarify clearly. When you’ve been researching and investigating this from almost day one, along with others, it is natural to simply omit certain detail from one’s discussions as extraneous. For example, on here, I simply have no need to refer to Shlongy as “Saints Striker, Shane Long”. You all know Shane is our striker, so it would be redundant of me to make mention of it. It’s just Shane, or Long.
Same with this case for us researchers. We all know how it was done, so just don’t think to mention the obvious.
Clearly though, Madeleine’s body was not stashed behind the sofa whilst the place was crawling with police. Or indeed, well before that. It was simply there (and stuffed in the wardrobe) for long enough (aproximately 90 minutes) at some point, to begin leaving traces of cadaverine.
According to GA (and various evidence in the PJ Files) – Madeleine’s body was removed from the apartment (a few days prior) to the staged abduction taking place, and kept in frozen storage until such a time as a plan was in place to permanently dispose of it. It was then transfered to the Renault Scenic car they hired 28 days after Madeleine’s “disappearance”.
Sufficient quantities of “bodily fluids” had “leaked out from” the (now rapidly defrosting) corpse into the boot of the car, that it seeped though into the spare wheel-well beneath. DNA samples were recovered from these stains and traces, and a convincing 15 (out of a possible 19) ‘markers’ found – all tested positive as Madeleine’s DNA. This is again (like pretty much most of what I have and will share here) - a matter of official police record.
Despite leaving the boot open all day and night, the Mccann’s could not get rid of the revolting stench of cadaverine, as reported in numerous witness statements included within the PJ files. (This was since they moved to a new villa, elsewhere in Praia da Luz).
Originally stated by @Gonçalo-Amaral
“I am brought the witness statement of a neighbour, according to whom, the McCanns left their car boot open all the time. For Gerry’s brother-in-law, the bad smell was explained by the fact that the McCanns transported their bins in it. As for the blood, it had been left by a piece of meat fallen out of a shopping bag. Kate’s cousin explained that the unpleasant smells were due to the little ones’ dirty nappies.”
Ahh, right. That’ll be it then. Glad we cleared that up.
Except that Cadaver dogs are not trained to detect the aromas of dirty nappies, bits of rotten meat, or household refuse. Not even ‘sea bass’. They’re trained to detect the highly distinctive aromas of human corpses.
Hopefully, that will be sufficient enough for you by way of clarification Numptyboi? If not, please say, and I can search through my records for all the precise witness statements. This will take a lot of time and effort, but I am prepared to do so, if deemed necessary.
Originally posted by Numptyboi
I assume the property was rented, but don’t know. I assume coppers were crawling all over it from the moment they were called, but don’t know and I assume the body would have been in a right old state 28 days later, but again, I don’t know.
I’m not trying to be a clever cunt, just a curious one!
Your questions were most welcome mate. No problem at all. I am here (this topic) to shed light in dark places, and illuminate truth (garnered through extensive knowledge of the case, including that which is no longer public, due to Carter-Ruck). Therefore always happy to be of service to that end.
The property was indeed rented, along with many others in the Ocean Club Resort, occupied by those who were party to “the frequent comings and goings at Apartment 5A that week”.
Yes, it was “crawling” with all manner of ‘interested’ (and interesting!) parties from the moment the “announcement” from kate (having just left her other two kids alone in the very same apartment that poor Maddie had just allegedly been “abducted” from, to race across to the Tapas area) screaming “They’ve taken her! Maddie is gone! The bastards have taken her!” As you would. Exactly what I’d say and do, if I’d just discovered my little girl was missing. 
To be clear, all the “Tapas 7” witnesses (the group excluding the Mccanns) statements are such a complete contradictory pile of shite and lies, amendments, redactments, changes of stories when they realised one had blatantly contradicted another – that they are simply discarded as unreliable at best. (Pure unadulterated bullshit at worst).
The fact is – the last genuine reliable completely independent (and unconnected to the McCanns in any way) witness to see Madeleine alive, was one of the Resort’s cleaning ladies and her daughter, who testify to seeing Madeleine with her family on the Sunday the 28th April, the day after their arrival (on their way to David Payne’s apartment). Equally it should be noted, that all available evidence points strongly to a death much earlier in the week.
Team McCann had plenty of time before they “raised the alarm” to the staged “abduction” on the Thursday evening of May 3rd (after first telephoning family back home to ask them to call Sky News and the BBC) in which to safely get the body out from Apartment 5A, into it’s place of temporary storage.
It is especially helpful if you are aquainted with Robert “The Key Master” Murat – a British Ex-pat, who as a local Property Management Agent in Praia da Luz – had access to many local private apartments in the vicinity that he knew would be empty for at least another few months. Unfortunately, Robert had at that time just flown back to the UK to visit his sister in Exeter.
But that’s ok. When you have connections in high places, these little hindrances simply do not matter.
The phone records show that Robert Murat received a call from someone sufficiently important that he caught the first flight back to Portugal at 07:00am the next day on May 1st.
Although, despite all the “help” Robert provided him (purely in ‘translating services’, of course! ) – Gerry seemed keen to distance himself from Robert when asked on news camera if he already knew Mr. Murat:
Dismissed with the nonchalant wave of a hand. “I’m not going to comment on that!”
Anyway, I hope that sufficiently answers your questions mate.
