Pap the simple notion of to nations who agree in a same game to honour their war dead should not be lost even upon you, its not rocket science, the other way is the game to have been played on a different date.
Look how small Wengerâs poppy is! Is he taking the fking piss? If thatâs how much you care about our brave lads who died in the war then you may as well not bother, you french cunt. My poppy is size of a fkn dinner plate srs, and Iâd go bigger still if my lapel could support the weight.
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Daft cunt of a Bear⌠thems for your car
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Aye, but Wengerâs poppy isnât made up of pieces of other peopleâs poppies that he found on BKâs floor when sweeping up at night.
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They should let Englandâs goalie wear a giant poppy costume that fills the goal. All the trophies will be ours, a fitting reminder of defeating the nazis.
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What we should do is agree with the Scottish bros not to wear poppies, say itâs against the rules, FIFA will fine us big style, itâs not worth the risk, and then we should rock up wearing poppies and the Scottish players will look like right CUNTS
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Actually, in all itâs jest, that last section of questions does make some fairly valid points.
A: Wondering idly, âWhen this thoroughly modern obsession with poppies became a thing? Like, it didnât used to be like this, did it, when we were younger, and in fact only in the last couple of years has this become such a heated debate, maybe since 2013, 2014, and youâve got to seriously wonder why that is, donât you?â
B: I mean, why does everyone care, all of a sudden? It used to be just this quiet solemn mark of respect, and now itâs morphed and mutated into something grotesque, something bigger, and like: is it even OK to wear a poppy at all now, or are you basically saying, âHere, look at my racism badgeâ?
C: Is it a bit weird that a symbol that celebrates freedom and the hard, hard-won gaining of it by those who came before us has suddenly become this near-enforced act of compliance now? Is that a bit off, or nah?
D: Have we detached entirely now the signifier (poppy) and the sign (the dead being remembered), and now, in this, the year of our lord 2016, we are all just so overwhelmed with life and terror thereof that the only way we can cope is by getting really mad at each other over a small cardboard lapel pin?
E: Also, how fucking hard are they to keep on? Can we put all this energy into a fastening system beyond âa pinâ?
When did this little red symbol of remberance, that was supposed to help to raise money for victims of the WW1, suddenly become such a political hot potato.
Itâs getting that I am now contemplating not wearing a poppy because I donât want ot be seen as some vainglorious war mongerer and that is quite sad.
I read an article earlier where it was the Daily Mail that started the campaign for Premiership clubs to wear poppies on their shirts, and in the first season of it Liverpool and Man United refused to do it!! Seem that itâs the Daily Mail that has made this such a contentious issue FFS!
I was going to say yesterday that the poppy, in and of itself, is not a political symbol. Nobody can say it is remotely religious or advertising but our PM somehow weighed into the middle of the battlefield yesterday and made it a political one.
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i think we should all change our avatars to poppies and anyone who doesnât is scum and should be ban imo
At least get remembrance correct for fucks sake.
I wanted to change mine into the Russian invasion unit that went into Ukraine fighting for freedom,âŚ
Whatâs wearing a poppy on football kit got to do with that Baz . Iâm sure there were guys playing in the 50âs that went to war , or knew people who died . Did Tom Finny , Stanley Matthews , Bobby Charlon , Bobby Robson wear a poppy on their kit . I suppose they were disrespectful twats in Bazza world .
Its being told we can not wear it, choice is everything, and when those playes you poorly named played the people who fought were alive so there was a connection.
As bTripz pointed out in his later post, itâs a notion that didnât occur to us until very recently. Many have already said theyâve stopped wearing poppies because of our recent actions, and the tacit validation they might feel that brings to the recent missions of our armed forces.
Not even after the World Wars, when presumably the need to remember was still fresh, were poppies worn at international football games.
We are still embroiled in hotspots of our own creation for nigh on fifteen years, in a region that may never recover. The cynic might say that the timing of this floral phoenix rising seems very convenient.
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Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Its being told we can not wear it, choice is everything
Can you imagine the tabloid reaction if one of the England players chose not to wear one? Some choice.
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They probably wouldnât but it makes great business sense to do so. Its a choice they have and if they were valid reasons then I wouldnât have an issue with it, objector to war, disagreeing with ones Country, overseas policy etc etc.
I wouldnât care either, but can you imagine the tabloids tho srs? And the cunts who would ring up Talksport about it? Dele Alli (Iâve decided itâs him) is gonna get fkn crucified. Serves him right. Prick.
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