Big Jugs has gone weekly?!
Yes, and he wasnāt denigrating anyone by calling them ābleatersā. 
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You misunderstand, @bathsaint
The Remain camp is split. Most have sensibly accepted the mandate of the British public. The bleaters are those that canāt accept the result.
Hence still-bleating.
Itās this kind Of patronising immature rubbish that undermines any respect folks might have had for your opinions.
It is a democratic right To voice your opinion irrespective of whether itās a majority or minority view. You ābleatā all the fucking time about social injustices and against Tory policy - that was the will of the electorate so should you just shut the fuck bleating about it?
And you have never even bothered to address my point that itās a right to argue against what you think is wrong - that is democracy - that to me itās no different as if there had been a referendum On the death penalty and a majority of fuckwits had voted for itā¦ does not make it right nor would it stop me ābleatingā - you sound more extreme with every heap of frothy shit you spout on this issue, despite the fact folks have given you plenty of respect for a principled opinion.
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Youāre so vain, AG. You probably think that post was about you.
Dude, I simply do not need to throw a stickly hook among this site to find bleaters. There are many high profile political figures that will not shut up about it, will not accept the result, and should know better.
Letās examine a few of the highest profile bleaters. There is Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell, two people that I am certain history will judge as being instrumental in our exit from the European Union, thanks to their 2004 decision to waive the seven year wait, when no other country did. The only problem for Blair is that heād lost all credibility at that point. Campbell was only ever feted for being a ruthless cunt and the inspiration for Malcolm Tucker.
Blair still needs 24/7 protection, paid for at our expense, because of his decisions. Thatcher sent a ragtag flotilla of boats to the Falklands. Blair set the world on fire. In a world where some merest observance of international law existed, heād have been in the Hague long before people started guzzling poison. Personally, I think the implications of āI will be with you, whateverā, qualify as treason. What does this man have to teach the world about anything, apart from how to maintain a constant and compelling state of self-delusion?
Campbell, editor of the New European, is as dodgy now as heās ever been. styling himself as some kind of proto-Mandelson in every interview Iāve heard him in lately. Fear and catchphrases are all heās got.
Speaking of Mandelson. this is a man that was twice thrown out of government, bang to rights each time. That he continues to exist as a political figure is probably the most concrete example of itās not what you know, itās who you know. He is overtly politically masterful to an extent which makes your skin crawl.
Then thereās Clegg, whoāll probably remember his greatest achievement as Cleggmania, that short lived period where everybody thought he wasnāt a cunt. History will remember him less kindly. Theyāll say he was the person that put the final nail in the coffin of the Lib Dems. Some may even note, as I do, that it was power that destroyed them, or at least the sniff of it.
North of the border, weāve Nicola Sturgeon, whoās previously harvested great political capital in pursuing a line of cutting things slightly less than the Tories, while secretly harbouring an obsession to get out of the UK so she can submit her nation to the sovereignty of the European Union. She insinuates that all of Scotland voted Remain, when the reality is that a third of IndyRef voters voted Leave. I suspect they actually comprehend independence and its mutual exclusivity with membership of the European Union. Despite the social democratic pretensions, sheās all too happy to pose holding a copy of the Sun if itāll help her win an election.
All of them are pro-EU, pro-Euro, no substance. I am not equating Remainers to them, but these are the remaining āchampionsā of the cause. What does that say about its chances of success?
@areloa-grandee is either now writing for the Guardian or they read this site(iām claiming the headline).
Looking back, it is extraordinary that a decision of such importance for the future of the United Kingdom was taken by a single poll requiring only a simple majority of votes cast.
As a result, 38% of the electorate are changing our national destiny on the basis of a referendum campaign that is now widely regarded as dishonest, and that called for us to leave the European Union without beginning to address the question of what we do next.
Seeing as you mention Blair(bit desperate calling him a champion of the cause), he should really be on leaves side. The two were surely made to go together.
In foreign policy terms, itās a bit like invading Iraq without any plan for the day after Saddam Hussein has fallen. Look where that landed us ā and the people of Iraq.
Thatās a ridiculous article, demanding a higher standard of comprehension among the electorate that has ever been demanded in the past. No voter anywhere has ever understood the full implications of what it is theyāre voting for.
I donāt think this is a bad thing, demanding would be a bit facist-y, maybe āencouragingā a higher standard of comprehension for future votes would be better. And just to be clear I donāt think everyone who votes needs to fully understand what theyāre voting for (who the fuck has time for that shit, even the politicians donāt fully understand most of the time) but just to raise their own bar a bit would be good. And just to be clearer Iām not demanding (or encouraging) a new referendum with this post 
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Mate, I donāt fully comprehend whatās going to happen every time I step out of the door.
We have universal suffrage, and while itās a wonderful thing, one of the problems is that youāre inevitably going to count the uninformed, misinformed or thick among your electorate.
Thatās a price worth paying to ensure people have a vote. Iād sooner have that than have some authority deciding the franchise according to their own subjective standards.
Couldnāt agree more*, so how do we get that 52% of the population more involved and educated on what theyāre voting for?
*seriously I do agree but couldnāt resist a cheap shot 
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Yes the cost of the Brexit might now have an influence if the poll was rerun, so might the irish conundrum (though I doubt it) and the lack of battle bus.
However, the antics of the EU, the lack of immediate economic collapse, the absence of crashing house prices and increased terrorism which hasnāt materialised (all of which we were promised if we voted leave) might mean people choose to vote leave this time around instead of remain.
The issue of dishonesty is not the sole preserve of the Leave campaign.
Anyone who suggests otherwise is either naive or lying to themselves
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Not really vainā¦ my response was not just about how I feel, but a general point Pap. You cant really start slinging the bleating of Blair at this argument though, because their opinion on this issue as a valid as yours or mineā¦ just because they are arseholes does not reduce their democratic right to bleat with the rest of us ordinariesā¦ fuck, if being a complete cunt meant you were not allowed to voice your opinion, we would have been spared 95% of the brexit shit spouted by that campaign, since it was dominated by Johnson, Gove and the other bigots like Farage.
Like I said and will repeat as nauseum; everyone has the democratic right speak out about what they find wrong. The example of the death penalty referendum is as illustrative as it gets, so maybe offer your opinion on that if looking to repsond to my POV? Otherwise you are suggesting that folks should shut up as 38% of the electorate is enough to remove a democratic right? That woudl require that you are no longer publically disagree with Tory policy until the next election as you are ābleatingā against the āwill of the peopleā ā¦ or is that you dont respect the will of those that did not vote the same as you?
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Cant dissagree, th whole thing was a mess. A mess of confusion, lies and undemocratic prnciples and yet we are told we are disrespecting democracy when mentioning this. I think there are also separate issues here:
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The anger at the complete farce of the communicatiosns by both sides during the campaign that will have had animpact on some folks decisions- that is NOT DEMOCRATIC
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The complexity of the issue - that even experts dedicated 100% of their time over many months would struggle to define the real pros and cons of membership and trade-offs that form part of a ārationalā decision making process (something taht really should be used when something is so important long term)- otherwise it is NOT REALLY DEMOCRATIC
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The fact that 38% of electorate is considered the āWill of the peopleā - its like Trump who thinks if he shouts it loud enough and often enough it will become the truthā¦
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The shouting downof those who are vocal about the decsion as Bleaters and āremoanersā - but that point I have already made - Its NOT DEMOCRATIC
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Filipino Male nurses or Filipina Female nurses?
Stealing all our highly trained nurses you bastards. The government hospitals down here are under staffed underpaid and over run with patients and the private hospitals are so expensive company paid health insurance is the only way to get good healthcare in the Philippines.
Most of your nurses are in the Middle East. Mainly female from my observations, but then again i wouldnāt have been looking for, or at the men.
Loving AGās new ā38% of the electorateā bollocks, when referring to the Leave proportion.
Sounds bloody excellent until you realise that less than 35% of the electorate voted Remain.
So all we need is experts who are 100% sure of everything giving 100% accurate forecasts, politicians who donāt bullshit for political expediency, a completely impartial investigative press and a highly educated public 100% in agreement or able to placidly accept the will of the majority.
Good luck with that.
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Can you add Redmond scoring a goal to that list.
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But I am not claiming 36% is the āwill of the peopleāā¦ 
It is the will of the majority of voters in the referendum. Thatās as good as it gets im afraid.