The brexit bus was equivocal, but this poster was probably misleading
I don’t know if boris intends to deliver on that, but it doesn’t seem sensible to have promised all of that to the NHS.
edit: certianly and probably? lol
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I didn’t listen to one single Referendum Speech or discussion. Why? Because I looked at those politicians taking part and asked myself, “Is there anyone on either side I trust to tell me the truth” The answer every time was NO.
So I took it upon myself to source online all the independent information I could find about the major issues involved and read all I could. We all carry into a discussion pre-conceived ideas but I tried to set them aside.
At the end of the campaign the answer was very clear for me and I put my X in the appropriate box.
Fact/fear…conjecture/lies…no way to conduct an important Referendum. Truth will always rise to the surface…often it is too late.
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The minute they said trade would end or the NHS would get £350m was when I stopped listening to the assholes. As for the debates, six egotistical twats bickering like kids in a schoolyard? No thanks.
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subtitles for Bearsy:
My biggest fear is around free movement and education. My lad had been looking at going to uni in Holland as the course he wants to do is taught there in English and the fees/costs are a mere fraction of the same in the UK.
Once our membership is over that door closes for him as it’s for EU members only.
As for free movement, we plan to buy a house on the mainland once the kids have finished uni and being a non-EU citizen MAY make that more difficult.
Let’s just hope that whoever is sat around the table thrashing out a deal get the best one possible for the UK but I think there is little doubt that the EU will play serious hardball.
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I’m not so sure the EU will play hardball - a lot may depend on whether other nations are also sick of the EU in its current format. I hear there is talk from several other countries about having their own referendum. Although the current outlook may appear bleak for the UK, there is no doubt this will have shaken up the powers to be in the EU. Hopefully some of their perceived arrogance will not be so obvious in the future, and that they may think twice before adopting some of their “bully boy” tactics (well, that’s how it appears to me from afar).
I also noticed that there is a petition going around for the UK to have a 2nd referendum, as there was a clause in the original that related to % of voters/voting that failed to be reached? Apparently it needs 100,000 signatures before it can b debated in Parliament. Last time I checked it had already exceeded 1 million. 
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If you ever wanted an example of “the tail wagging the dog” and an abdiction of parliamentary responsibility the article says barely a quarter of the Parliamentary Tory Party and one tenth of Labour had called for a Referendum.
Just undelines my opinion that the Referendum should never have taken place.
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It didn’t need to take place at all. It was only because Dodgy Dave was scared shitless of his supporters leaching over to UKIP that he decided to go ahead with it - to save his party in government and his own job.
Bit him on the bum that one didn’t it
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TBF the referendum was needed. Alas, for very, very many, for a number of reasons, it became not about the EU but about immigration and that’s a great pity but the fault on very many politicians stretching back to at least the 96 general election.
Seen this - might be helpful to some:
If you voted out because of “unelected politicians” then well done because we’re about to get an unelected prime minister.
If you voted out because of immigration then well done, because you just lost the right of free movement too. Just wait 'til you have to get a visa to go to Glasgow or Belfast.
If you voted out because people were “stealing your jobs” then well done, because you’re about to see Germany and France “steal” Nissan and a bunch of other companies who only manufacture here as a gateway to the eu market.
If you voted out because you think we’ll get a great trade deal with the EEA “like Norway did”, think again. Take a look around your Sainsbury’s Local and try and find any fruit and veg that’s grown in the UK. We need them more than they need us, and like the EEA, we’ll have to accept EU policies like free movement as part of a trade deal anyway - except now we won’t be able to have any say in them.
If you voted out because of vague scaremongering headlines like “Migrant Crisis” then please, feel free to remind me when it was that Syria joined the EU.
If you voted out because Farage promised £350m for the NHS, then I’m sure you’ll be happy to watch him on This Morning revealing that that was a lie.
If you voted out and you’re heading into retirement, then great job! Because now the working people of this nation will break their backs to afford your pension without the influx of young, economically active and skilled EU migrants.
If you voted out because you think we’ll be better off, the £ has just fallen by 8% against the dollar.
And if you voted out because you love this country, prepare to see it crumble, with threats of a unified Ireland and an independent Scotland just hours after the result was confirmed.
Well done, Britain.
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Jeez, there’s there’s some bullshit in that!
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just seen this quoted elswhere from Dan Hannan
Things could have been very different had the renegotiation resulted in a new settlement, one which allowed Britain to step away from the EU’s political institutions while remaining in the market. That deal was on offer, even from the most hardline Euro-federalists. Jacques Delors called it a “privileged partnership” for Britain; Guy Verhofstadt “associate membership”.
Early in the process, I urged the Prime Minister to aim for such an outcome. He was, as he usually is, both honest and charming. That wasn’t the kind of deal he wanted, he told me. If it was what I wanted, I should ensure the election of a Conservative Government, thus getting the referendum, and then vote to leave.
The referendum was necessary because of Cameron. Good fucking riddance.
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Ok Smiler, then lay the GOOD news on me dude! 
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Interesting.
Project Clusterfuck.
Cameron legs it and his European Commissioner washes his hands of it as well.
Come on then Boris and Nigel, time to step up and deliver on those promises.
Do tell us the masterplan that will halt the decline in our economy that I can now see with my own eyes…
Suddenly Gideon looks like a fucking genius.
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Just because I don’t have GOOD news, doesn’t mean to say I have to fall for the bullshit scare tactics in that previous quote. Just looking at that first paragraph. Are you telling me an unelected politician will become prime minister? Won’t the process to elect a new prime minster follow the same process as electing one at any other time? When the current party got voted in, did the public vote for the prime minister or did they vote for the party which most aligned with their political views? (Seriously, I am happy to be re-educated if I have faulty knowledge of the U.K. System as I have paid scant attention to it since I “defected” and swore allegiance elsewhere).
There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics… Any good news can be manipulated, and for any good piece of news I bother to quote you would probably quote another couple of negative pieces as that will fit with your current thinking. For example - are our exports likely to be more or less expensive for EU members next week? You will probably retort with how short term that thinking is, whereas I am just seeking to find a positive in the current situation
Of course I can come up with negatives too, but there are enough people doing that at the moment so until people give me genuine facts with links that can back those up, I am keeping an open mind
And a good deal of truth too.
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I’ve been thinking about this video again today because it lays out the legistics of the leaving process. If you don’t want to listen to it all…and god knows obviously not enough people listened to it before voting…listen from the 10 minute mark. It will tell you what to expect.
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