'Anti gentrification' protests (attack on Killer Cereal Cafe)

I was close to work for a year, but I actually preferred working in London, it’s a great place.

London is like nowhere else really in relation to the dynamic of the city. But I stick by my guns. If you can’t afford to live in London, then you move to where you can afford to live. I do think we need to stop foreign investment in property in London/the UK unless they can prove residence for over six months a year, but we would still have problems.

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Why do people have to be close to work? And what do you define as ‘close’? I travel an hour and a half each way into work, because I can’t afford to live that close to work. Shit happens.

I know that you’re suffering from the slings and arrows of outrageous treatment of South West Trains, but that’s no reason to get pissed off at people lucky enough to work close to home.

Being close to work is amazing. I remember swapping a near four hour round trip for twenty minutes of vigorous cycling in the early 2000s. It was glorious.

When i re-entered the contract market, I made the conscious decision not to restrict myself to local stuff, so got to experience the other end of the spectrum again, living away during the week, and being a visitor in my own house at the weekend.

All we really got is time, Cherts. I don’t think it is reasonable that those that get the least spend so much unpaid time travelling to jobs in areas they could never afford to live in. The bigger the gentrification bubble gets, the more pronounced the problems become.

I was close to work for a year, but I actually preferred working in London, it’s a great place.

London is like nowhere else really in relation to the dynamic of the city. But I stick by my guns. If you can’t afford to live in London, then you move to where you can afford to live. I do think we need to stop foreign investment in property in London/the UK unless they can prove residence for over six months a year, but we would still have problems.

So in short after all of this its your perogative and choice you work in London, I did say far above about choice and why people do such drastic things.

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint

Why do people have to be close to work? And what do you define as ‘close’? I travel an hour and a half each way into work, because I can’t afford to live that close to work. Shit happens.

I know that you’re suffering from the slings and arrows of outrageous treatment of South West Trains, but that’s no reason to get pissed off at people lucky enough to work close to home.

Being close to work is amazing. I remember swapping a near four hour round trip for twenty minutes of vigorous cycling in the early 2000s. It was glorious.

When i re-entered the contract market, I made the conscious decision not to restrict myself to local stuff, so got to experience the other end of the spectrum again, living away during the week, and being a visitor in my own house at the weekend.

All we really got is time, Cherts. I don’t think it is reasonable that those that get the least spend so much unpaid time travelling to jobs in areas they could never afford to live in. The bigger the gentrification bubble gets, the more pronounced the problems become.

I was close to work for a year, but I actually preferred working in London, it’s a great place.

London is like nowhere else really in relation to the dynamic of the city. But I stick by my guns. If you can’t afford to live in London, then you move to where you can afford to live. I do think we need to stop foreign investment in property in London/the UK unless they can prove residence for over six months a year, but we would still have problems.

So in short after all of this its your perogative and choice you work in London, I did say far above about choice and why people do such drastic things.

Of course it’s my choice, but I don’t believe these people don’t have a choice, that’s the difference. People aren’t as helpless as you make out, you have to give them some credit.

I happen you to know for a fact you are totally wrong.

Its not a question of credit, it is a question of the housing crisis and th ack of choice people have in where they can live if they are a single parent on a lower wage, how can they commute? Displacement is a huge issue all over the Country, local authorites are moving people all over the UK as they can not afford to house people in the capital.

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

No I know London pretty well

the only City thats dead in the evening

Nope.

If they are a single parent on a lower wage I would assume they probably won’t work, let alone commute. I didn’t realise that was the only demographic we were talking about. The thing is, that isn’t who’s attacking these shops, is it?

‘Displacement is a huge issue all over the Country, local authorites are moving people all over the UK as they can not afford to house people in the capital.’

I don’t understand this, it’s either a huge problem all over the UK, or its a problem in London. How many people get moved from London to Liverpool on a monthly basis then Baz?

I’ll be interested to read your case studies then.

Originally posted by @KRG

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

No I know London pretty well

the only City thats dead in the evening

Nope.

It has no City centre, Charing Cross? Trafalgar Square? Leicester square? Yo name them it has no entertainment hub and you have to go outside to Camden. Hoxton, Shoreditch. Soho etc etc and even then you are bound by residential laws for boozers, great, beautiful City but also a pretty poor spread out nightlife.

Yeah, as said above, you don’t know London very well.

Question: is this not in fact taking a slightly myopic view on what’s actually a nationwide endemic? That (by and large) affordable housing is being snapped up for development or simply buying to let?

I understand it’s seen as a good investment, but I find it morally repugnant.

Ok then, where is London’s heart and where is open 24 hour in the City centre? I have never found it.

Completely agree, its one thing to buy another house but quite another to prospect of it, should be scrapped.

Leicester Square/Picadilly/Soho is pretty much London’s ‘centre’. But the point about a City like London is there are many ‘centres’ that people base themselves around for nights out, whether that be Chelsea, Shoreditch, Fulham, Camden, Clapham, Hoxton, Ealing, Brixton, Angel, Chiswick, Vauxhall, Wimbledon, Soho, Richmond, Islington etc . That is what is so good about London, you can have a different night out for every weekend of the year, instead of centering yourself around Yates and Weatherspoons in a City centre. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want that kind of choice. Of course, it also depends what you want out of nightlife.

And do you just mean 24 hour pubs? That’s a bit of a strange question…

Buy to let is an issue - there should be a limit to how many properties one can own.

Anywhere in central London with a 24hour business/entertainment culture? It doesn’t exist as London doesn’t have it, you have to travel out, not as far as Surrey mind but a good few miles.

Yeah Baz, that’s Soho.

What would be a good example of this? The casinos on Leicester Square are pretty much open all night, as are a number of places in Soho.

It is, as is the general practice of being a landlord, which is essentially about making your money from someone else’s insecurity and lack of property. Buy to let is even worse, because you’re essentially making money from someone’s inability to get a mortgage, and you’re artificially pushing up demand, raising prices for everybody. The fact that these vast empires are paid for by the working population is just the icing on a very shit cake.

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What about the vast number of people who aren’t interested in owning houses?