# 📹 VAR - what's going on?

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109>\
**Category:** Football\
**Created:** [26 June 2018 05:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109 "2018-06-26T05:55:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [23 June 2019 17:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/41 "2019-06-23T17:58:18Z")

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Offer the opportunity to one of those ex pros and they would run a mile. Cowardly shits.

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**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\
**Post date:** [8 July 2019 10:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/42 "2019-07-08T10:23:47Z")

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> **[VAR will not re-referee Premier League - referees' chief Mike Riley](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48903289)**
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> The Premier League will not be re-refereeing the game by VAR and will set a high bar for decisions, says referees' chief Mike Riley.

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**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\
**Post date:** [8 July 2019 11:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/43 "2019-07-08T11:34:31Z")

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Interesting and may cause conflict with UEFA.

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**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2019 14:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/44 "2019-08-13T14:19:51Z")

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> **[VAR in the Premier League: How did first weekend go for technology in top...](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49307496)**
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> As VAR plays a part in the top flight for the first time in England, did it run smoothly and, crucially, did it get the important decisions right?

Overall I think it worked weel, despite some managers complaining it ruined the “spirit of the game”.

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**Post date:** [13 August 2019 14:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/45 "2019-08-13T14:26:40Z")

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Only the managers that it negatively affected seemed to be berating it, I’m sure when a VAR decision goes their way and saves them a point or 2 they’ll soon wind their necks in. From what I saw every VAR decision was correct wasn’t it?

Also was listening to Darren Gough on talksport yesterday and agree with him that there is no ‘spirit of the game’ in the Prem as too much money involved.

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**Post date:** [13 August 2019 14:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/46 "2019-08-13T14:29:12Z")

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Unless the ‘spirit of the game’ is where the top 6 clubs get the majority of the important calls go their way?

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**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2019 15:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/47 "2019-08-13T15:43:57Z")

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I still find it difficult getting my head around offside decisions being made that would be impossible to call in real life. We are talking about off/onside by centimeters, decisions previously judged “level”. Offside was about players gaining an unfair advantage…you can’t say a few centimeters will give anyone a distinct advantage.

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**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2019 17:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/48 "2019-08-13T17:23:02Z")

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I am now deeply concerned t hat they are thinking of going back to “clear and obvious” for offside.

14 sets of fand are convonced there is bias towards 6 clubs from officials. So a Lino is slightly biased to a Top 6 and doesn’t give a 1 foot offside, against say Utd, YET in the same game gives a 1 cm onside decision as being offside against us?

No. Then we are right back where we started.

It MUST be precise or it is open to the same bullshit

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**Post date:** [13 August 2019 17:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/49 "2019-08-13T17:42:13Z")

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Darren Gough was right on the money. This just sums the whole thing up. Fined just 315K, what a joke. And of course this paves the way for Chelsea to win their appeal and have the transfer embargo overturned.

> **[Manchester City fined but avoid transfer ban for breaching Fifa rules on...](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49337051)**
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> Manchester City are fined but avoid a transfer ban after admitting breaching Fifa rules on signing youth players.

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**Post date:** [18 August 2019 08:39 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/50 "2019-08-18T08:39:46Z")

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Watched the Arsenal Burnley game and MOTD later on last night & I don’t know what you think but VAR & these new rules about handball seem to be taking the refs job away from them. A couple of really strange handball decisions (when the arm was down by their side) & whilst we all hoped VAR would stop the refs missing blatant fouls or shenanigans it seems like it’s going to take the heart out of the game. How can VAR miss a player being dragged to the floor in penalty area in the City Spurs game yet the new handball rule means that if your arm is by your side in the pen area and the ball hits it then it’s a foul. I watched 30 minutes of Barrow vs Yeovil while waiting for the other half to get ready and the game seemed eminently better without VAR. Opinions?

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**Post date:** [18 August 2019 09:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/51 "2019-08-18T09:47:24Z")

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Think it is a work in progress.  
Appeared to be a blatant penalty vs facts ball hit arm, nose was offside.  
They set rules, the key now is to review the realities THEN come up with recommendations.  
Should they go back to handball being an assumption decision?  
Personally think it is very difficult. Clear and obvious offside would be how many cm’s?  
Moving hand is 1mm or 1 foot?  
How many referees would have given that penalty to Saints vs Liverpool?  
I bet more would give it IF it was Liverpool vs Saints.  
See the problem?  
We need to get used to it and it needs to evolve over the course of time imho.

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 10:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/52 "2019-11-12T10:14:46Z")

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7 out of 10? As Chris Sutton says “did he say that with a straight face”…

> **[VAR chief Neil Swarbrick marks new system as 'seven out of 10' despite criticism](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50380641)**
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> The use of video assistant referees in Premier League games is given a mark of seven out of 10 by the man in charge, despite strong criticism.

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 10:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/53 "2019-11-12T10:38:15Z")

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I think the offside decisions have worked ok. You’re either off or not. Yes, it could be a matter of millimetres but at least it’s consistent. This has worked because the human element has been removed.  
As far as contentious decisions/overturning the ref goes, I think VAR has been shite. You basically have shit decisions by incompetent refs being compounded by another cunt in a studio somewhere who believes solidarity with his fellow previously bullied colleague is more important than actually getting a decision correct.

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 10:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/54 "2019-11-12T10:59:45Z")

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> [@Goatboy](#):
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> You basically have shit decisions by incompetent refs being compounded by another cunt in a studio somewhere who believes solidarity with his fellow previously bullied colleague is more important than actually getting a decision correct.

So, Saturday, there was the situation where the Everton player (who had just been booked) basically pushed Djenepo off of the ball to shield it out for a goal kick, this took place in the penalty box.

The commentator said, anywhere else on the field that would have been a foul but the referee didn’t blow for one. Should VAR have looked at it, did VAR look at it?

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 11:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/55 "2019-11-12T11:02:31Z")

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It may have done. But how many pen decisions have been overturned? The clear and obvious thing has just been used to back up poor decisions. If there is 1% of possibility that the on field ref made the right call the VAR won’t contradict him.

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 11:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/56 "2019-11-12T11:28:34Z")

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Like a lone Swedish backpacker pleading for her life in a fridge-riddled woodland adjacent to a layby, Goat has nailed it.  
We have replaced shit refs with technology - and given it to shit refs to operate.  
A bit like trying to solve a poor darts player’s appalling aim by suggesting they stand further away from the board.  
The penalty decisions are just as bad as last season.

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 11:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/57 "2019-11-12T11:30:38Z")

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would we have 8 points if VAR had not been used?

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**Post date:** [12 November 2019 11:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/58 "2019-11-12T11:31:04Z")

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> [@BTripz](#):
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> So, Saturday, there was the situation where the Everton player (who had just been booked) basically pushed Djenepo off of the ball to shield it out for a goal kick, this took place in the penalty box.
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> The commentator said, anywhere else on the field that would have been a foul but the referee didn’t blow for one. Should VAR have looked at it, did VAR look at it?

That was played out right in front of us and was a clear and obvious off the ball foul in the penalty area. An incident made for VAR. Total cop-out.

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**Post date:** [13 November 2019 19:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/59 "2019-11-13T19:53:59Z")

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Just spoke to one of the lads who does media for England. Apparently, Gomez had Sterling by the throat, butted him, kicked him in the bollocks and smashed Sterlings head against a wall.

The FA had a look at VAR and banned Sterling for 2 games

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**Post date:** [23 November 2019 11:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/var-whats-going-on/4109/60 "2019-11-23T11:03:32Z")

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Confusing report that doesn’t really say anything, I’m still ambivalent on VAR, it should be used for offsides only based on what has happened so far.

> **[VAR incorrectly overruled decisions four times - Premier League referees'...](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50517096)**
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> VAR delivered the "worst possible outcome" when it stepped in on four occasions to overrule correct decisions made by the on-field referee, says Mike Riley.

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