# 🗞 Trust in mainstream media

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [8 July 2015 09:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840 "2015-07-08T09:15:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/262 "2019-01-20T20:01:43Z")

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Evidence? No points of view.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/263 "2019-01-20T20:05:02Z")

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> **[Russia seizes model who made Trump claim](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46922420)**
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> A Belarusian model deported from Thailand for soliciting is detained in transit at a Moscow airport.

What do you make of this?

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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:10 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/264 "2019-01-20T20:10:21Z")

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I think you said that Russian media never said anything against Putin’s government?

From the article you posted:

“…The video clip posted by lawyer Dmitry Zatsarinsky has now been tweeted by Russian broadcasters and anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny…”

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/265 "2019-01-20T20:11:51Z")

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4 people arrested for a criminal act under Russian law. So what?  
I did notice this though.  
Russian broadcasters and anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny."  
Is part of the Russian state, as you claim there is no opposing voices allowed.  
Still waiting for you to answer this question.

> [@Saint-or-sinner](#):
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> Do you consider it fair and normal for the prime suspect in a mass murder to get a veto over all evidence, including the other partaking nations never being allowed to divulge anything the prime suspect doesn’t want known. Yes or no?  
> Simple enough for you, i hope.

It’s not a difficult thing to answer, so let’s hear it.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/266 "2019-01-20T20:12:23Z")

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RT I said.

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/267 "2019-01-20T20:12:24Z")

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Beat me 😁

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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/268 "2019-01-20T20:13:55Z")

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Of course you did.

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/269 "2019-01-20T20:14:10Z")

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No, you’ve made multiple claims about Russian media as a whole. Your a terrible liar(i won’t forget the Parry incident).

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/270 "2019-01-20T20:14:44Z")

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Are we talking about Ruslan Boshirov?

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/271 "2019-01-20T20:21:11Z")

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Simple question. Why are you scared of answering it?

> [@Saint-or-sinner](#):
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> Do you consider it fair and normal for the prime suspect in a mass murder to get a veto over all evidence, including the other partaking nations never being allowed to divulge anything the prime suspect doesn’t want known. Yes or no?  
> Simple enough for you, i hope.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/272 "2019-01-20T20:24:16Z")

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Of course I don’t think its fair and normal.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/273 "2019-01-20T20:24:54Z")

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But are we referring to the Salisbury two who were Cathedral spotting…

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/274 "2019-01-20T20:38:44Z")

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So you accept the whole investigation was a fraud?

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**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 20:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/275 "2019-01-20T20:55:50Z")

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Also reported on RT website - though with a different take on the story?

> **[Search results](https://www.rt.com/search?q=Nastya%2BRybka)**
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> RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

> **[MSM hero Nastya Rybka: Whistleblower with dirt on Trump or orgy organizer...](https://www.rt.com/op-ed/449152-rybka-trump-tapes-msm/)**
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> After the arrest of escort Nastya Rybka in Russia, Western media has revived her claims of owning tapes proving collusion between Donald Trump and the Kremlin. One problem: there’s still no reason to believe they ever existed.

Who to believe?

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 21:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/276 "2019-01-20T21:52:43Z")

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The way I read that RT “report” is that she is quite possibly legitimate, why have they arrested her? I also would bet Thailand was strong armed into releasing her if so.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 21:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/277 "2019-01-20T21:53:49Z")

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Of course not, in all probability Russia is involved and responsible, get over it, facts you want?  
So do I but I’m not naive to believe we’ll ever get them, probability.

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [20 January 2019 22:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/278 "2019-01-20T22:03:13Z")

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> [@Barry-Sanchez](#):
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> Of course I don’t think its fair and normal

So this was a lie.  
All the evidence points to one culprit and if you can’t see that, there is no point talking to you anymore  
Explain(to yourself) the cockpit riddled with 30mm cannon fire.

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**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\
**Post date:** [21 January 2019 14:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/279 "2019-01-21T14:02:42Z")

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The BBC, and especially Fiona Bruce, coming under a lot of pressure over this, and rightly so. If it is true, and the BBC have pointedly refused to deny it, that Bruce made a ‘joke’ during the audience warm up which implied that Abbott only got the job as Shadow Home Secretary because she once had sex with Corbyn, ie, because of sexual favours given, which was greeted with whoops and hollers from the audience, this is serious. Bruce may as well wear a Tory rosette.Rolling her eyes and looking to the heavens when Abbott, or indeed any audience member with left of centre views were speaking. Bruce is clearly totally unsuited for the role of impartial mediator in a debate programme like Question Time and should be dismissed back to something more suited to her talents, like reading the news from an autocue, or talking bollocks about antiques.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [21 January 2019 14:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/280 "2019-01-21T14:14:17Z")

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She was poor no doubt about it at all but she is new and will get better, if not she’ll be replaced and Abott was as always just sticks to the party line and doesn’t deviate, this isn’t a bad thing per se but its obvious when you see a clueless blagger who hasn’t the guile to think independently.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [21 January 2019 14:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/trust-in-mainstream-media/1840/281 "2019-01-21T14:19:56Z")

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It should have been Evan Davis (my vote), Paxman or Marr for the role, that was never going to happen with quotas though was it.

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