# :tories: Tories in trouble? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [26 October 2015 22:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308 "2015-10-26T22:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 193
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 October 2019 13:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3853 "2019-10-10T13:40:14Z")
Genius Raab making a good impression. [https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/1182229403540967426?s=20](https://twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE/status/1182229403540967426?s=20) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [10 October 2019 19:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3854 "2019-10-10T19:38:15Z")
The cheek of it. [https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1182198419651252224?s=19](https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1182198419651252224?s=19) My MH would be better if he wasn’t PM. ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [14 October 2019 08:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3855 "2019-10-14T08:57:19Z")
15 posts were split to a new topic: [Photo ID for Voting - good or bad](https://www.sotonians.com/t/photo-id-for-voting-good-or-bad/5333) ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [31 October 2019 13:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3856 "2019-10-31T13:29:55Z")
> **[Liz Truss' Korean Trade Deal Torn Apart for Failures by Lords – Byline Times](https://bylinetimes.com/2019/10/31/liz-truss-korean-trade-deal-torn-apart-for-failures-by-lords/)** > > A report by peers contests Government claims that separate British deals would be better than those secured with the EU. ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 08:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3857 "2019-11-03T08:23:32Z")
[https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1190897283543576576?s=09](https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1190897283543576576?s=09) A whistleblower tipped off Labour about concerns that Cummings might have been turned during the three years he spent in Russia as a young man. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 09:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3858 "2019-11-03T09:55:39Z")
All we need now is to find out Priti Patel is having an affair with Gerry Adams and Dominic Raab has applied for an allotment. Job done. All their anti-Corbyn ammo nullified. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 10:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3859 "2019-11-03T10:42:01Z")
Lammy and the Times would have known this over two weeks ago if they kept up-to-date with this site. > [@fr Macron's Yellow Vests](https://www.sotonians.com/t/macrons-yellow-vests/4878/520): > > [Dances With Bears](http://johnhelmer.net/is-dominic-cummings-a-sleeper-russian-agent-the-british-prime-ministers-mind-control-experts-secret-years-in-kgb-moscow/) > > ![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/c/c2b235b08b10576e5ea2a6810bbcf7fac619d2b3.jpeg) > > ### [IS DOMINIC CUMMINGS A SLEEPER RUSSIAN AGENT? THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER’S…](http://johnhelmer.net/is-dominic-cummings-a-sleeper-russian-agent-the-british-prime-ministers-mind-control-experts-secret-years-in-kgb-moscow/) > > By John Helmer, Moscow @bears\_with Dominic Cummings, presently a powerful and wealthy 47-year old special advisor to British Prime Minister ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 11:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3860 "2019-11-03T11:50:43Z")
Can I just point out that the tweeter appears to be David Lammy, someone with a wee bit of form for invention and hyperbole? ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 12:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3861 "2019-11-03T12:02:51Z")
Yep. But the article is real and in The Times. Are you defending Cummings or just don’t have a view? I don’t know how real the story is BTW. Just find it odd that your initial reaction is to lambast a Labour MP when a story about a Tory advisor is surely the meat of the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 12:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3862 "2019-11-03T12:08:00Z")
Lammy is a remainer. This trumps everything else. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 12:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3863 "2019-11-03T12:42:50Z")
A Labour MP who has gone on record essentially calling all Leave voters fascist. There are a shitload of Labour MPs I don’t take seriously. But yes, I do take issue with David and his Lammynated material. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 12:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3864 "2019-11-03T12:55:41Z")
Lammy is an idiot but this is not his material. ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 13:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3865 "2019-11-03T13:13:21Z")
Ok try this. > **[Labour asks about Dominic Cummings’ years working in Russia](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-asks-about-dominic-cummings-years-working-in-russia-vl6d0w62z)** > > Dominic Cummings, the prime minister’s most senior adviser, is facing questions from Labour over his past activities in Russia after a whistleblower came forward to raise “serious concerns” about the Any concerns or other views? ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 13:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3866 "2019-11-03T13:54:54Z")
Sadly, it’s not odd at all. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 16:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3867 "2019-11-03T16:03:24Z")
Let’s see if they have any substance to this story beyond years working in Russia. By that token, we should be rounding up Peter Hitchens as a potential informant. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 16:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3868 "2019-11-03T16:06:49Z")
Is Hitchens an unelected, unaccountable advisor to the PM who is avoiding being questioned about his conduct whilst already being found in contempt of Parliament? ---
**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 16:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3869 "2019-11-03T16:08:25Z")
@pap, are you sure you haven’t been hacked? And I don’t just mean your Sotonians’ account. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 16:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3870 "2019-11-03T16:27:27Z")
Deppo has started calling @pap Nuttall over on Twitter 😂 ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 17:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3871 "2019-11-03T17:07:54Z")
Nope. I’m 44, and have seen a lot of these things occur before. The question of whether people are linked to Russia is one of those things. It’s the sort of allegation that needs to be true in order not to backfire. If there’s evidence, great, get him arrested and give the Tories a scandal to deal with during election season. If he’s not, then all those jumping the gun today are also handing out ammunition. The Times article contains very few specifics. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [3 November 2019 17:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308/3872 "2019-11-03T17:33:55Z")
“It’s the sort of allegation that needs to be true in order not to backfire” How’s that worked out for terrorist supporting, jew-hating, communist spy Corbyn? [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308.md?page=192) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tories-in-trouble/2308.md?page=194)