# 🇺🇸 💣 The US Presidential Race **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [20 November 2015 15:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823 "2015-11-20T15:01:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 15:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/1 "2015-11-20T15:01:47Z")
Obama will be on his way out of the White House soon. The race is already on for the next President of the USA. A lot of runners, most of them Republican, giving us possibly our biggest ever poll. Which of these candidates are going to emerge as frontrunners? Which will be good for the world? Who’s actually going to win the god-damned thing?!! Full breakdown of runners and riders over at the NY Times. > **[Who Is Running for President? (Published 2015)](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/2016-presidential-candidates.html)** > > Donald J. Trump officially accepted the Republican party's nomination on July 22. Hillary Clinton was officially nominated on July 26 at the Democratic Convention. _Poll ([view on site](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/1))_ * * * ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 15:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/2 "2015-11-20T15:18:36Z")
Fuck sake Pap we’ve got just under 12 months to go yet, the republicans haven’t even decided who they’re going to put forward either. Personally I’d go for Hillary then, when asked about her relationaship with Bill, she can say “I did not have sex with that man!” ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 15:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/3 "2015-11-20T15:18:56Z")
I am still struggling to get my head around the name Donald Trump and the title of President of the United States of America in the same sentence. But then at least if he did get elected he would go down in history as having the worst hair of any elected Head of State ever. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 15:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/4 "2015-11-20T15:25:25Z")
Is Rand Paul that tall transvestite? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 15:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/5 "2015-11-20T15:31:34Z")
> Originally posted by @BTripz > > Fuck sake Pap we’ve got just under 12 months to go yet, the republicans haven’t even decided who they’re going to put forward either. Early bird catches the Big Bitching Bob as well as the worm, it would seem :lou_wink_2: You’re right. It is early, but that’s the sort of site this is, discussing the election of another country a year in advance. And as the maxim goes, a year from now you’ll wish you started it now. > Personally I’d go for Huillary then, when asked about her relationaship with Bill, she can say “I did not have sex with that man!” Bernie Sanders for me, I reckon :lou_surprised: ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 16:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/6 "2015-11-20T16:26:37Z")
Now that the US has had its first black President perhaps the time has come for them to elect a trannie? ---
**Author:** ![Burp](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/burp/32/86_2.png) [@Burp](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Burp)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 17:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/7 "2015-11-20T17:28:40Z")
I am unconvinced (let’s say) by HC. Obviously would like to avoid a Republican. Hope that a miracle might occur and a ‘progressive’ makes it. Are there any around this time or are they all skint? ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/8 "2015-11-20T18:02:08Z")
Was not Bernie Sanders… Guiness share scandal? Of course that was Earnie Saunders…but a bit toooo close in my book, better stick with a Clinton as at least you know you will get a decent cigar ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/9 "2015-11-20T18:02:50Z")
Trump vs Bush. Quite interesting :lou_smiley: [![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/f/3fb584bb71fdf2accc5563b24aa65375d7aa38c8.jpeg "Donald Trump vs. Jeb Bush | Presidential Debate Highlights") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1D-HjSZ7Y) Starting to see why Trump is popular. Would probably be a disaster, but can definitely see why people like him. The best thing is Bush saying brother Dubya “kept us safe”. The sheer balls of the man. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 22:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/10 "2015-11-20T22:16:04Z")
I voted Trump for the comedy factor, come on it will be funny. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [20 November 2015 22:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/11 "2015-11-20T22:18:16Z")
The Clintons are like the Blairs and that is enough to put me off, money grabbing grubby little bastards, they are not left they merely pretend to be. ---
**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\ **Post date:** [21 November 2015 01:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/12 "2015-11-21T01:44:09Z")
You will neeed to amend the voting by, when people drop out allow any that have voted for them to vote again. It would be even funnier if the gopher Hilary was elected. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [21 November 2015 08:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/13 "2015-11-21T08:37:16Z")
Can’t help feeling that Hillary will be bounced away like she was last time. Everyone expected her to be taking the democratic nomination. When push came to shove, people got behind Obama. The interesting thing is that Sanders is the only Democrat still running that has a chance of stopping her. ---
**Author:** ![KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/krg/32/1061_2.png) [@KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/u/KRG)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 12:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/14 "2015-11-24T12:36:24Z")
> Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez I voted Trump for the comedy factor, come on it will be funny. Comedy factor? The dude that wants the boarders closed, Mosque’s shut down, Muslims tracked on a database, [spouts white supremacist nonsense](http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45291_We_Found_Where_Donald_Trumps_Black_Crimes_Graphic_Came_From), and says Black Lives Matters deserved to be roughed up? Parts of this sound, familiar? Anyway, following on from Trump’s comments on BLM, [5 people were shot by White Supremacists at a BLM protest](http://www.salon.com/2015/11/24/five_people_shot_at_black_lives_matter_protest_in_minneapolis_police/) in Minneapolis last night. But yeah, comedy value right? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 12:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/15 "2015-11-24T12:47:49Z")
Trump has also been going on about waterboarding, saying that the people they’ve detained without charge “deserved it” and that he’d go further. Check out “Where my country gone”, a South Park episode released this year which brilliantly lampoons Trump’s candidacy. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 12:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/16 "2015-11-24T12:51:06Z")
Do you think honestly he would shut a border down? How would he do that? Do you also think he would close all Mosque’s? Do you really think so? He is pulling back on the database thing and its also against their constitution, he is making populist noise. I don’t have enough information concerning the shootings. He is popular and saying what people actually think and right or wrong its refreshing, I disagree with our politicians as they all sound the same and don’t want to offend and I find that more offensive and patronising, I hate the extreme right as much as I do the extreme left , right on sandal wearing fascist killjoy pc health and safety apologists Country hating whoppers. ---
**Author:** ![KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/krg/32/1061_2.png) [@KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/u/KRG)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 13:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/17 "2015-11-24T13:11:34Z")
I find it interesting that someone who has been accused of having bigoted and possibly racist views finds the demonstrably bigoted, racist and made up (by Neo-Nazi’s on Stormfront) views refreshing, and ‘what people actually think’. It doesn’t really matter if he can or cannot achieve those things, that rhetoric is dangerous and is having real world consequences for those he is targetting. Considering the power and stature of the States, it should be a concern that a man basically running on a White Supremacist ticket is gaining some support, also that no-one seems to have the bollocks to tackle his outright lies. How you can find that ‘refreshing’ is baffling, especially against the backdrop of the racial tensions currently present in the States. Also, that last sentence. Aren’t you the one that always complains how much you hate name calling? Just thrown a bunch of mythical bogeymen into one sentence, that makes a compelling argument. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 13:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/18 "2015-11-24T13:24:06Z")
How is he doing in the polls again, how did he get to the top? If you think a politician believes what he says then you are soft in the head, he says it to get power or retain it nothing more. Idealism has no place in politics hence old Jezza who I like wont last long. You obviously are struggling with American constitution, freedom of speech. Yes it is refreshing to see someone speak their mind regardless of whether its right or wrong, we only have Dianne Abbot here for that nowadays and she is a bellend. Gordon Brown got in deep shit for saying crap about Gillian Duffy. Case and point there I think. ---
**Author:** ![KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/krg/32/1061_2.png) [@KRG](https://www.sotonians.com/u/KRG)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 13:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/19 "2015-11-24T13:37:04Z")
> Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez > How is he doing in the polls again, how did he get to the top? If you think a politician believes what he says then you are soft in the head, he says it to get power or retain it nothing more. Right, that still doesn’t really address anything I actually said. I said it’s concerning that someone is running on a White Supremacist ticket, especially given the racial tensions present in the country right now. Whether he believes it or not (I really think he does - given there is more than a little evidence to suggest so) is irrelevant. It’s reinforcing the ideas of White Supremacists. Who are extremely dangerous. They are growing, and they are responsible for more violent deaths in America than those evil Muslims in the past 15 years. Cry all you want about pc gone mad, but the truth is, words of consequences. Speech is an extremely powerful tool. If you spout hate, to people that already hate, and they go out and start killing people. That is a problem. > Idealism has no place in politics hence old Jezza who I like wont last long. You obviously are struggling with American constitution, freedom of speech. Again, this is meaningless. How exactly am I stuggling Baz? What exactly have I said that is contradiction of the 1st Amendment? It’s perfectly legitimate to say this this person has shitty ideas, and is saying shitty and dangerous things. It’s almost, like I dunno, my free speech to say what he is saying is bullshit. That said, I don’t think you should be able to outright lie in an attempt to win an election. Doubly so when those lies are racist as fuck. > Yes it is refreshing to see someone speak their mind regardless of whether its right or wrong, we only have Dianne Abbot here for that nowadays and she is a bellend. Gordon Brown got in deep shit for saying crap about Gillian Duffy. Case and point there I think. I think you missed the point of that whole furore. If anything, Gordon would be part of your pc patrol, calling her a bigot, for asking where all the Eastern Europeans were coming from. Y’know, something you don’t like hearing. So no, no case or point there really. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 November 2015 13:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823/20 "2015-11-24T13:43:37Z")
Gillian Duffy was right to ask the question, the pc ealisy offendd whopper comes out with the standard bigoted comment which is exactly what an extreme lefter does (Brown strangely is middle ground Labour as he knew where his bread was/is buttered), he honestly though a woman with a valid concern was a racist, all to common is this mock shock World. [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-us-presidential-race/2823.md?page=2)