# :saints:šŸ‘Øā€šŸ’¼ The Next Manager Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Southampton Football Club\ **Created:** [18 May 2023 21:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779 "2023-05-18T21:13:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/shroppie/32/130_2.png) [@Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Shroppie)\ **Post date:** [18 May 2023 21:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/1 "2023-05-18T21:13:58Z")
Apparently Russell Martin is the favourite to become our next manager. Iā€™m sure Iā€™m not the only one whose first thought was Who? and second was Please not Jones Mk II. Exactly the same again. Little experience, ā€œgood developing playersā€. But what about actually being a proven good manager! Looks like a other metrics-driven Ankersen punt in the dark ---
**Author:** ![Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/numptyboi/32/25_2.png) [@Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Numptyboi)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 08:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/2 "2023-05-19T08:12:54Z")
I remember him playing for Norwich. Thatā€™s about all. I know Swansea were dreadful over the Winter but picked up towards the end of the season. No idea what heā€™d be like as a Manager here, but 15th and 10th place finishes for the Swans over the last two seasons donā€™t really make me think heā€™d be the next Guardiola. But, if he comes in, gotta give him a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/shroppie/32/130_2.png) [@Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Shroppie)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 08:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/3 "2023-05-19T08:20:57Z")
> [@Numptyboi](#): > > But, if he comes in, gotta give him a chance. I remember briefly thinking that about Nathan Jones.ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/numptyboi/32/25_2.png) [@Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Numptyboi)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 08:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/4 "2023-05-19T08:33:25Z")
Would apply to anyone who gets the job, i guess. I remember watching a clip from an interview with Ashley Williams who was at Stoke on loan when Jones went in there. He said that Jones came in first day and said something along the lines of ā€œI donā€™t need to tell you how to play football, just go out there and do itā€ - he had no plan, no structure and no idea. He inferred it was because Jones had an inferiority complex as heā€™d achieved little in his playing career and couldnā€™t communicate with players of a higher calibre than him. ---
**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 08:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/5 "2023-05-19T08:49:53Z")
> [@Numptyboi](#): > > He inferred it was because Jones had an inferiority complex Being mental probably contributed too. ---
**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 10:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/6 "2023-05-19T10:52:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 16:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/7 "2023-05-19T16:38:38Z")
![image](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/5/d/5da23734af04f0fd48504ca581ff519199b2c59e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 16:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/8 "2023-05-19T16:44:46Z")
> > > Rob Phillips @robphillipshere ---
**Author:** ![Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/numptyboi/32/25_2.png) [@Numptyboi](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Numptyboi)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 17:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/9 "2023-05-19T17:21:43Z")
Canā€™t help feeling this is hardly the best prep for the last 2 games. Although Selles has been poor, he has been good in front of the cameras, being positive and engaged. Running the rumours so obviously before the end of the season is a bit of a kick in the balls for him and heā€™s going to have to dig deep to get himself and the team motivated to avoid two massive whippings by in form teams. ---
**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/10 "2023-05-19T18:02:18Z")
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**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/11 "2023-05-19T18:02:35Z")
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**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 18:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/12 "2023-05-19T18:02:56Z")
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**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 19:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/13 "2023-05-19T19:26:50Z")
It hardly matters now. Letā€™s face it, the players couldnā€™t look any less motivated than they did last week. ---
**Author:** ![Sfcsim](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sfcsim/32/88192_2.png) [@Sfcsim](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sfcsim)\ **Post date:** [19 May 2023 21:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/14 "2023-05-19T21:11:57Z")
I think we are broken as a club, we seem a little clueless in all honesty. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 05:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/15 "2023-05-20T05:54:57Z")
The one good thing is that they have pulled their finger out and look like they might have him in place for the entire summer This is particularly important when we faced with a not so inconsiderable squad change ---
**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 06:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/16 "2023-05-20T06:36:20Z")
So weā€™ve got this to look forward to? Weā€™ll go from not wanting the ball and not knowing what to do with it when weā€™ve got it to boring the opponent (and fans) in to submission. [https://twitter.com/mkdonsfc/status/1376625211429285893?s=46&t=IKgJwo1raSBUez0fme4SNQ](https://twitter.com/mkdonsfc/status/1376625211429285893?s=46&t=IKgJwo1raSBUez0fme4SNQ) Anyone remember the painfully slow build up play under Puel? Where counterattacks were seen as bad sport so we always let the opposition get back before progressing up the pitch. For the record I agree we need to be better on the ball but Martin sounds a bit extreme with his possession obsession. Canā€™t help but feel a more pragmatic manager and style is required so that we donā€™t get to a stage where we can only do one thing and play a certain way. Which is one of the reasons we are where we are now. Because of the Jones and Selles appointments I feel that I donā€™t need to give Rasmus Ankerson the benefit of any sort of doubt here. I hope Iā€™m wrong but this appointment reeks of another data driven exercise. Ankerson: ā€œWe are shit with the ball and there are lots of games in the championship so need to have more possessionā€ Checks spreadsheetā€¦ ā€œSwansea have the highest possession percentage stats, letā€™s take their managerā€. Even though they won 3 out of 21 games mid season. So looks patchy, again when we need consistency. Funny how those stats donā€™t make it in to his data models. I just hope other factors (like personality and not being a complete loon) have been factored in this time around and that Jason Wilcox has had a say in this and it isnā€™t just Wankerson. ---
**Author:** ![Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/shroppie/32/130_2.png) [@Shroppie](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Shroppie)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 07:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/17 "2023-05-20T07:08:58Z")
I canā€™t help feeling that the owners (or at least one of them) are fixated on the idea of discovering a young manager. The first attempt failed miserably since I donā€™t think Jones had a footballing brain but they donā€™t want to admit defeat a d go for experience. Theyā€™ve cited Vincent Kompany as a role model but fid every one like him Iā€™d say there are 10 ex-players who fail. He also had the advantage of respect having played at a high level. If this works, theyā€™ll claim it as a brilliant move. it could work if the team buy into it but Iā€™ll admit Iā€™m not confident. ---
**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 10:56 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/18 "2023-05-20T10:56:04Z")
Ah, but MK Dons once passed the ball 56 times before scoring, so he must be fucking brilliant. šŸ‘šŸ‘ Mind you, that could read either way. That they were so comfortable in possession that they could knock it around at will before clinically dispatching the move with a perfect and well-crafted strike, Guardiola style, or that it took them 56 bastard sideways passes before getting past the halfway line and close enough to finally have a pop at goal now the keeperā€™s fallen asleep through sheer boredom. Itā€™s a tough call. ---
**Author:** ![Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/simon-says/32/133_2.png) [@Simon-says](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Simon-says)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 11:10 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/19 "2023-05-20T11:10:05Z")
The latter! ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [20 May 2023 11:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779/20 "2023-05-20T11:46:58Z")
I do believe we scored a goal of the season contender from which we took great pride as we took something like 37 passes in the build up. Just saying (Someone better at google can go find it iā€™m sure) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-next-manager-thread/6779.md?page=2)