# 📰 The most exciting thing to happen in Salisbury since Stonehenge was created

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**Created:** [8 March 2018 22:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654 "2018-03-08T22:45:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 06:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/802 "2018-09-15T06:23:00Z")

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [15 September 2018 21:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/803 "2018-09-15T21:03:39Z")

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Here’s a good example why you shouldn’t trust the guardian on certain matters.

"The documents were published by Bellingcat, an online platform that began with investigations of attacks in Syria, and the Russian investigative outlet The Insider. Both sites also specialised in uncovering information about Russian soldiers active in Ukraine since 2014.“

Documents reveal Salisbury poisoning suspects’ Russian defence ministry ties

> **[Documents reveal Salisbury poisoning suspects' Russian defence ministry ties](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/15/documents-show-novichok-salisbury-suspects-alexander-petrov-ruslan-boshirov-links-defence?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)**
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> Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, who are wanted for the Skripal novichok attack, are linked to Russian defence ministry

Bellingcat?  
That’s your source?  
If the guardian had bothered to check, that article was shown in it’s true light, the day before their article. Bellingcat(Atlantic Council) have been shown multiple times to distort the truth on an epic scale.  
Just read the original and then the comments below, if in doubt.  
Shocking what the guardian is prepared to regurgitate.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 21:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/804 "2018-09-15T21:19:08Z")

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They were just two Russian guys (possibly gay now), who had had links to the Russian defence ministry and were on a weekend trip to see the old clock at Salisbury Abbey. Via a cheap hotel in London and flying straight back on Aeroflot. Nothing to see here, it’s an MI5/MSM/deepstate/lefty conspiracy.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/805 "2018-09-15T22:29:45Z")

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Links to Russian defence ministry?  
As in, they were conscripted for two years as every fit male was till a few years ago.  
Bellingcat has been shown time and time again for what it is and that reflects on the guardian for printing it as not just a sources(read the bit i highlighted) , but the gospel of sources(if only they had checked the comments).  
It was ridiculed at least half a day before hand and the guardian didn’t check. That’s unforgivable for anyone you want to trust as a news source, or do you disagree?

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**Author:** ![SaintBristol](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbristol/32/607_2.png) [@SaintBristol](https://www.sotonians.com/u/SaintBristol)\
**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/806 "2018-09-15T22:40:38Z")

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Is it still an MI5 conspiracy? Or, I lose track here. It’s now a made up story by The Guardian? Who is this Bellingcat?

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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\
**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/807 "2018-09-15T22:43:38Z")

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Read it all again Ted. It’s relatively simple.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/808 "2018-09-15T22:46:46Z")

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Sorry, forgot to add, it’s MI6.  
They get very annoyed if you don’t use capitals and they’d probably shoot(or Novichok) you if you called them 5.  
Please remember this, it could save your life :lou_facepalm_2:

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/809 "2018-09-15T22:48:32Z")

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I read it before. **"An ongoing Bellingcat investigation conducted jointly with _The Insider Russia_ has confirmed through uncovered passport data that the two Russian nationals identified by UK authorities as prime suspects in the _Novichok_ poisonings on British soil are linked to Russian security services.**

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/810 "2018-09-15T22:53:44Z")

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“Bellingcat has been shown time and time again for what it is and that reflects on the guardian for printing it as not just a sources(read the bit i highlighted) , but the gospel of sources”

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/811 "2018-09-15T22:54:50Z")

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**gospel of sources** read highlighted bit

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/812 "2018-09-15T22:57:42Z")

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Scotland Yard has said that they believe Petrov and Boshirov to be pseudonyms and that the men’s real identities have been covered up by the Russian government.

They were making it up too 🙄

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/813 "2018-09-15T22:57:49Z")

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Have you looked at “the insider Russia” and their source, or just taken it as gospel?  
Have you read any comments on the original yet?  
Get back to me when you have.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 22:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/814 "2018-09-15T22:59:17Z")

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So, what was actually uncovered? Has it been shared I. e. Can we see it or do we accept their say so? Was whatever they have was obtained through legal channels? Have you seen it yourself?

Thought not.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/815 "2018-09-15T23:01:56Z")

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Scotland Yard don’t make stuff up, the family of Jean Charles De Menezes would be shocked to hear that.  
Same person in charge of both investigations, funnily enough. Fuck up, get promoted. Bit like the guardian.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/816 "2018-09-15T23:02:50Z")

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ok

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/817 "2018-09-15T23:03:59Z")

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Its called being promoted out of harms way.

Happens all the time in the oil industry.  
Its too expensive to fire you so they promote you to a position where you can do less harm/damage.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/818 "2018-09-15T23:07:13Z")

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It’s worse than that. Their one “source” is a bloke that was paid and when shown the stamp said “I’ve never seen that, what do want me to say”(paraphrasing, but only slightly).  
Then the ss bit, see above. It was ridiculed within 2 hours and that’s my point. Read the guardian article and the authority it gives these idiots, whilst surely knowing what’s happened.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/819 "2018-09-15T23:08:44Z")

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I need this to happen to me. I want to be “promoted” and given a nice pay rise, have no responsibilities and in say 5 years worked out of the business with a nice parting settlement…

Happy days.

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/820 "2018-09-15T23:09:07Z")

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You really dont like The Guardian

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**Post date:** [15 September 2018 23:10 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/the-most-exciting-thing-to-happen-in-salisbury-since-stonehenge-was-created/654/821 "2018-09-15T23:10:12Z")

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Ever worry that some are promoted “in harms way”.  
politically and journalisticlly, it’s what weseem to favour.

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