# 💰 ⬆ Tax increase to pay for Social Care **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [22 January 2017 19:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614 "2017-01-22T19:49:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 14:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/21 "2017-01-23T14:13:09Z")
I don’t even know who Kate Silverton is. Let me google her… ---
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 14:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/22 "2017-01-23T14:14:57Z")
I’ve seen her. I can’t see why Mrs May would object to your request, GB. Email her in advance, get in first… [https://email.number10.gov.uk/](https://email.number10.gov.uk/) ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 15:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/23 "2017-01-23T15:02:43Z")
I think I would rather they had some sort of medical training - is there anyone hot in Holby these days ---
**Author:** ![Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/fatso/32/18_2.png) [@Fatso](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Fatso)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 15:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/24 "2017-01-23T15:05:42Z")
Fine, you can have Dr Gillian McKeith ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 18:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/25 "2017-01-23T18:30:31Z")
This is in keeping with their localism agenda. A year ago, at a Labour meeting, we were told the council was not going to have the money to fulfil its minimum legal obligations. The Liverpool City Region idea is basically the only option open to us, and even then, I share your suspicions that it’ll allow central government to turn its back on entire regions. “Not us, gov”, they might say. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 19:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/26 "2017-01-23T19:57:39Z")
Yeah, my maid, butler, chauffer, gardener; that’s four to start with… :lou_wink: ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 20:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/27 "2017-01-23T20:15:39Z")
> **[Council plans to charge self-funding adults for assessments](https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/01/20/council-plans-charge-self-funding-adults-care-assessment/)** > > Northamptonshire County Council is considering £50 care assessment fee for adults who need to pay for their care I once had an assessment at uni and was told if I wasn’t eligible I’d be charged £500 for the assessment. Thankfully I was eligible. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 20:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/28 "2017-01-23T20:27:42Z")
> Originally posted by @Intiniki > > [Council plans to charge self-funding adults for assessments](http://www.communitycare.co.uk/2017/01/20/council-plans-charge-self-funding-adults-care-assessment/) > > I once had an assessment at uni and was told if I wasn’t eligible I’d be charged £500 for the assessment. Than qq kfully I was eligible. As always these things are badly thought through. I’ve been involved recently in providing a response to the Work, health and disability: Improving lives Green Paper. While the paper is genuinely trying to get opinion to improve access to work, or benefits for those unable to work, it is politically driven rather than driven by the needs of those who are ill or disabled. There are a quite a few ministers I would like to make experience the current state disability benefits system tbf. ---
**Author:** ![lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/lifeintheslowlane/32/690_2.png) [@lifeintheslowlane](https://www.sotonians.com/u/lifeintheslowlane)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 20:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/29 "2017-01-23T20:47:13Z")
Walk a mile in my shoes…it’s an old adage but will always be true. My wife had the indignity of being assessed for a Mobility Allowance over 30 years ago…she’s had MS for 35 years. She was going through a bad spell at the time and had to attend an assessment tribunial. When we got to the address in Bedford Place it was on the first floor, up a flight of steep steps…no lift. She was using elbow crutches at the time and we just about made it up to the room. She failed the test…I suspect simply by being able to attend the assessment. In our experience, they’ll find a way not to support as many as possible. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 20:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/30 "2017-01-23T20:47:29Z")
:lou_sad: ---
**Author:** ![Bucks](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bucks/32/87_2.png) [@Bucks](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bucks)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 20:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/31 "2017-01-23T20:57:05Z")
You do know its not budgets that cause financial issues Pap, seeing as they are estimates, right? Its the actual costs and funding that matter :lou_lol: ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 21:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/32 "2017-01-23T21:05:24Z")
LITSL " My wife had the indignity of being assessed for a Mobility Allowance over 30 years ago…she’s had MS for 35 years. She was going through a bad spell at the time and had to attend an assessment tribunial. When we got to the address in Bedford Place it was on the first floor, up a flight of steep steps…no lift. She was using elbow crutches at the time and we just about made it up to the room. She failed the test…I suspect simply by being able to attend the assessment. In our experience, they’ll find a way not to support as many as possible." And the problem continues and gets worse. Who in their right mind outsources assessments to private companies and pays them on “results” i.e cases processed and money saved? ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2017 22:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/33 "2017-01-23T22:19:41Z")
or even payment by results in the public sector too i.e. Troubled Families agenda and Job Centres. I spent a few years working in the former and missed some training about the later where colleagues were told about the bonuses (believe it was clothing vouchers) for ensuring people were sanctioned. ---
**Author:** ![WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/worzelscummage/32/73175_2.png) [@WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/u/WorzelScummage)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2017 08:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/34 "2017-01-24T08:03:04Z")
There’s too many men, too many people Making too many problems And there’s not much love to go around Can’t you see this is a land of confusion? ---
**Author:** ![Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rallyboy)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2017 08:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/35 "2017-01-24T08:52:29Z")
I’ve always had this problem with NHS accountants - _There are ten patients who need drugs at £50 a day._ _The accountant asks how much is needed._ _£500 is requested._ _So the accountant sets the budget at £150._ Who is the useless twat in that situation? NHS staff are not using ambulances for the fun of it, or caring for the vulnerable in their homes just to fill their days - these are all urgent services that need funding, but the budget from Westminster suggests otherwise, either as a mistake, or perhaps to justify privitisation? The nurses and carers are not the ones doing ridiculous drug company deals or misjudging the number of staff needed, we need to look at the problems at the top. ---
**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2017 08:56 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/36 "2017-01-24T08:56:22Z")
> Originally posted by @lifeintheslowlane > Walk a mile in my shoes…it’s an old adage but will always be true. > > My wife had the indignity of being assessed for a Mobility Allowance over 30 years ago…she’s had MS for 35 years. She was going through a bad spell at the time and had to attend an assessment tribunial. When we got to the address in Bedford Place it was on the first floor, up a flight of steep steps…no lift. She was using elbow crutches at the time and we just about made it up to the room. > > She failed the test…I suspect simply by being able to attend the assessment. In our experience, they’ll find a way not to support as many as possible. You’ve got to admire their moxie. Attend this interview, or ur not getting ur disability. The interview is upstairs, if you can climb the stairs, ur not disability. Joseph Heller would be proud of that one. ---
**Author:** ![Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@Rallyboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Rallyboy)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2017 09:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/37 "2017-01-24T09:06:44Z")
My Mum went through the same - you ask an old person if they can walk so far and they want to show that they can still do it, even if it does them in for the day. The people who set these tests and make sure that patients are denied support - I’m not sure how they sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2017 10:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/38 "2017-01-24T10:47:40Z")
Sung by the man who was outa here if Labour won the election a few years back! ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [7 September 2021 15:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/39 "2021-09-07T15:40:06Z")
> **[Boris Johnson outlines new 1.25% health and social care tax to pay for reforms](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58476632)** > > Boris Johnson says it is a "responsible decision", but Labour calls the plan a "sticking plaster". ---
**Author:** ![WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/worzelscummage/32/73175_2.png) [@WorzelScummage](https://www.sotonians.com/u/WorzelScummage)\ **Post date:** [7 September 2021 15:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614/40 "2021-09-07T15:44:09Z")
I don’t disagree with it. Let’s hope it’s spent wisely and doesn’t go to mates. Edit: Lol, just noticed I created this thread!! [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/tax-increase-to-pay-for-social-care/614.md?page=3)