# South America

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [26 October 2019 12:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345 "2019-10-26T12:41:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 12:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/1 "2019-10-26T12:41:21Z")

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Seems to be a flashpoint at the moment so here’s a thread.  
[https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1187892704186982401?s=20](https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1187892704186982401?s=20)

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 14:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/2 "2019-10-26T14:45:41Z")

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@Goatboy could be add the Unrest in Ecuador thread too? I briefly saw an article about Chile, Ecuador and Venezuela which I will have to find.

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [13 October 2019 10:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/3 "2019-10-13T10:28:40Z")

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One of my favourite places on earth is Ecuador. I spent just over 2 months there as a volunteer in Quito in 2007. Then went back for a 2 week trip a before heading home to the UK.  
I have some friends there. They have been vocal about the current leader and the protests.  
Many of the protesters are indigenous people. Under Correa things appeared to improve for them.

> **[Army deployed in Ecuador as protests descend into violence](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/army-deployed-in-ecuador-as-protests-descend-into-violence)**
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> Demonstrators in capital Quito attack television station and national government buildings

Hoping my friends are going to be safe.

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [25 October 2019 06:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/4 "2019-10-25T06:33:24Z")

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> **[Whitewashing Neoliberal Repression in Chile and Ecuador](https://fair.org/home/whitewashing-neoliberal-repression-in-chile-and-ecuador/)**
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> Western journalists stand aghast at the violence of protests in Chile and Ecuador, while rationalizing that of Venezuela's opposition.

  
[https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1187566953197645824?s=20](https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1187566953197645824?s=20)  

> **[The ‘risk to democracy’ in Chile isn’t from protesters. It’s from Piñera and...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/24/democracy-chile-protesters-pinera-pinochet)**
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> It’s beginning to feel like the bad old days of Pinochet, says academic and author Oscar Guardiola-Rivera

  
[https://twitter.com/lgbtjeong/status/1186498989379805185?s=20](https://twitter.com/lgbtjeong/status/1186498989379805185?s=20)  
[https://twitter.com/ml\_maria\_/status/1187591837722263552?s=20](https://twitter.com/ml_maria_/status/1187591837722263552?s=20)

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 14:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/5 "2019-10-26T14:55:43Z")

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Done.

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 15:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/6 "2019-10-26T15:19:32Z")

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You also found that article. You are now my new PA.

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 15:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/7 "2019-10-26T15:19:59Z")

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Do I get to wear the stockings again?

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [26 October 2019 23:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/8 "2019-10-26T23:44:49Z")

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What do you mean again. Isn’t it standard day wear?

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [27 October 2019 16:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/9 "2019-10-27T16:31:55Z")

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> **[Hundreds shot and beaten as Chile takes to the streets](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/27/chile-hundreds-shot-and-beaten-street-protests)**
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> Doctors say they don’t have supplies to treat wounded and accuse authorities of under-reporting injuries

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [28 October 2019 08:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/10 "2019-10-28T08:42:55Z")

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[https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1188633592123084803?s=20](https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1188633592123084803?s=20)

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [9 November 2019 16:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/11 "2019-11-09T16:12:51Z")

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> **[Bolivian police 'mutiny' in opposition to Evo Morales](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/09/bolivian-police-mutiny-in-opposition-to-evo-morales)**
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> Groups of officers in major cities join protests over disputed presidential election result

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [9 November 2019 16:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/12 "2019-11-09T16:14:21Z")

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My Brazilian friends are happy with this.

> **[Brazil's former president Lula walks free from prison after supreme court ruling](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/08/lula-brazil-released-prison-supreme-court-ruling)**
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> Workers’ party leader had been held for 580 days for corruption but court rules incarceration unlawful until appeals exhausted

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [10 November 2019 21:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/13 "2019-11-10T21:20:18Z")

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Evo Morales has stood down. Some are saying it is a right wing coup.

> **[Bolivian president Morales resigns after protests](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-50370013)**
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> Demonstrators, who accused him of election fraud, chant "yes we could" as they celebrate.

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [11 November 2019 01:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/14 "2019-11-11T01:33:20Z")

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2019 nearly 2020 and this kinda stuff is going on in the world.  
[https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1193680302931107841?s=19](https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1193680302931107841?s=19)

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [11 November 2019 21:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/15 "2019-11-11T21:34:03Z")

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[https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1194002490204794880?s=20](https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1194002490204794880?s=20)

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [13 November 2019 19:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/16 "2019-11-13T19:12:06Z")

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[https://twitter.com/GrayzoneProject/status/1194690537695125511?s=20](https://twitter.com/GrayzoneProject/status/1194690537695125511?s=20)

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [13 November 2019 20:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/17 "2019-11-13T20:34:09Z")

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Is it Guaido?

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**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\
**Post date:** [13 November 2019 21:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/18 "2019-11-13T21:24:10Z")

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Well it clearly is a coup, despite attempts by America to portray it as a “democratic breakout”. The White House says, “Morales’ departure preserves democracy, these events send a strong signal to the illegitimate regimes in Venezuela and Nicaragua that democracy and the will of the people will always prevail”. Video has shown Morales’ house being ransacked on Sunday night and other instances of what has been described as ‘chilling instances of police abuse of power’ in the past few days. On Tuesday night the far right president of Bolivia’s Senate swore herself in as President, to a nearly empty legislative chamber. Senators from The MAS, Morales’ party boycotted this, many of them citing fear for their safety.

Morales did an amazing job in Bolivia, large improvements in GDP,huge increases in literacy, reduced extreme poverty from almost 1 in 3 to a small minority.  
But of course this can’t be allowed to happen under a left wing government in South America so he had to be removed.  
Those figures.  
Poverty down from 61% to 35%, extreme poverty 15%.  
GDP up from $11bn to $40bn.  
Illiteracy down from 13% to 2%.  
Minimum wage up 300%.

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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\
**Post date:** [17 November 2019 07:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/19 "2019-11-17T07:42:55Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1195777034980667394?s=20>
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> ✽ Orlenys (desde 🏠) 🍁🍃 @OrlenysOV

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**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\
**Post date:** [17 November 2019 10:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/south-america/5345/20 "2019-11-17T10:52:05Z")

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I’ve sadly already seen some worrying videos and photos on twitter which appear to be people killed after the coup.

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