# 🇻🇪 Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 11:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/444 "2019-05-01T11:55:26Z")
Why do we sell arms to the head choppers and then actively help the backward fucks slaughter innocent children with said arms? Russia isn’t involved with Venezuela for the oil. Look up how much they already have. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 13:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/445 "2019-05-01T13:35:17Z")
Why do we? Money and low morals? Your point? They’re fighting a proxy war with the US in Venezuela, you’re bright enough to know this, this isn’t about a failed attempt at socialism, this is about global power and projection, as I rightly said earlier, they a shower of cunts and thats all there is to it. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 13:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/446 "2019-05-01T13:42:17Z")
> [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > Why do we? Money and low morals? Your point? My point(which i assume you’re willfully ignoring) is that we back the head choppers only because they have oil(unlike Russia and Venezuela. > [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > this isn’t about a failed attempt at socialism Because it didn’t fail? You may need to read more than the stenographers of western power to realise this. > [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > as I rightly said earlier, they a shower of cunts and thats all there is to it. You said this earlier. > [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > There is no way the US will invade, China and Russia are too involved in the Country selling arms and getting cheap oil, all shit house nations. Which leaves me wondering why you holiday in by far the most hideous murderous one. What’s the appeal? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 13:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/447 "2019-05-01T13:44:09Z")
It started failing in 2013 when oil prices started changing, when Chavez was still alive. I’m not planning on going to China anytime soon son. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 13:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/448 "2019-05-01T13:47:18Z")
It’s failings are largely the result of imperial sanctions(we’ve been through this). Why not China, not exported death on a large enough scale to be considered civilised? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 13:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/449 "2019-05-01T13:50:48Z")
Imperial? And the Chinese aren’t? Ha Ha, brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 14:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/450 "2019-05-01T14:35:57Z")
So if they murder a few million innocents, they’ll be your kind of people? Keep following the one sided lies. > **[Zero Percent of Elite Commentators Oppose Regime Change in Venezuela](https://off-guardian.org/2019/05/01/zero-percent-of-elite-commentators-oppose-regime-change-in-venezuela/)** > > A FAIR survey of US opinion journalism on Venezuela found no voices in elite corporate media that opposed regime change in that country. Over a three-month period (1/15/19–4/15/19), zero opinion pi… ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 16:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/451 "2019-05-01T16:32:03Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/452 "2019-05-01T19:45:00Z")
You’re not acknowledging China and Russia’s imperial past and atrocities? You’re a strange one. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/453 "2019-05-01T19:46:03Z")
What about the police brutality over there? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/454 "2019-05-01T19:48:44Z")
link? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/455 "2019-05-01T19:53:34Z")
Wait there, I’ll just find a twitter bloke with an axe to grind… ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/456 "2019-05-01T19:54:26Z")
Jeez - normal service is resumed 🤦‍♂️ Welcome back Baz… ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/457 "2019-05-01T19:57:19Z")
I acknowledge that you appear to willingly live in the past. The USoWH & poddle can get involved when and only when invited, by the most openly democratically elected government anywhere(yeah really, look it up). You believe in democracy and self determination, if i remember correctly. So you must surely condemn uninvited outside interference, particularly from a country with form, that has imposed sanctions deliberately aimed to kill the poor(again, yeah really. 40,00). ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/458 "2019-05-01T19:57:32Z")
> **[Military vehicle runs over rioters in Caracas – TV footage](https://www.rt.com/news/457938-venezuela-vehicle-run-over-protesters/)** > > An armored vehicle, which appears to belong to the Venezuelan National Guard, has been filmed ramming into a crowd of rioters in Caracas. Clashes have broken out in the capital, amid an ongoing coup attempt. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/459 "2019-05-01T19:58:25Z")
Someone told me everything on RT was a lie. Should i believe him? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/460 "2019-05-01T19:58:39Z")
Still no answer, you must like the weather in Georgia and Crimea, if not I suppose you can build your own island in the South China Seas for convenience. Keep on avoiding and deflecting son. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/461 "2019-05-01T19:59:34Z")
Would it be the link Phil shared about the armoured van? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 19:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/462 "2019-05-01T19:59:42Z")
I used that as a slight as if they’re using it you know it happened, I can post a CNN or BBC if you want? You can match the stories ha ha! Hook, line and sinker there mush. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [1 May 2019 20:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/463 "2019-05-01T20:04:39Z")
RT CNN or BBC. LOL Welcome back Barry. And that’s a military vehicle suppressing a US backed armed coup attempt. Not Police brutality. Check the Yellow Vest thread for that. Try harder. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=22) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=24)