# šŸ‡»šŸ‡Ŗ Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/404 "2019-04-10T16:16:31Z")
Fucking whale-killers. Thatā€™s who you love. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/405 "2019-04-10T16:18:40Z")
Backward practice but we kill foxes so canā€™t say anything, Venezuela has human rights issues stemming back decades. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/406 "2019-04-10T16:20:35Z")
More to do with state, church and democracy to why Latin America is wank compared to Canada and the US in relevance of wanting to live there and making money, I donā€™t see 1000ā€™s of Yanks crossing the border to live in Bolivia or somewhere, do you? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/407 "2019-04-10T16:20:43Z")
Venezuelaā€™s literacy rate has skyrocketed in the past two decades. The number of people out of absolutely poverty has plummeted. What human rights abuses have been recorded during the Chavez-Maduro era? Do you have the UN resolutions handy? ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/408 "2019-04-10T16:21:03Z")
If foxes werenā€™t living on potential fracking sites Iā€™m sure theyā€™d be left alone :lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2::lou_wink_2: ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/409 "2019-04-10T16:21:41Z")
Time for Barry to blubber, I reckon šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/410 "2019-04-10T16:23:10Z")
> [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > More to do with state, church and democracy to why Latin America is wank compared to Canada and the US in relevance of wanting to live there and making money, **I donā€™t see 1000ā€™s of Yanks crossing the border to live in Bolivia or somewhere, do you?** No mate. Thatā€™s because I live in West Derby and you live in Cressington. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/411 "2019-04-10T16:23:34Z")
Thereā€™s a big problem with this article. Itā€™s bullshit basically. Like this bit. ā€œThe initial problem with this argument is that Venezuela is not a real democracy, as President Nicolas Maduro has been blatantly riggingā€ A links provided and it goes to this lie(not surprisingly itā€™s the bullshit broadcasting corporation). > **[Maduro wins controversial Venezuela poll](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-44187838)** > > President NicolĆ”s Maduro secures a new term in an election marred by claims of vote rigging. There was no vote rigging(weā€™ve been over this before), so we know whoever wrote this, is either a gullible idiot, or a deliberate liar(you choose). Iā€™ll be honest, i read no further, as the author quite clearly followed the bellendcat method of investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/412 "2019-04-10T16:28:18Z")
West Derby/Norris Green has the crime rate of Latin America mindā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/413 "2019-04-10T16:29:38Z")
Thats good they can get eloquently get fucked then by a mismanaging Government. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/414 "2019-04-10T16:32:39Z")
Yeah but whales are Muslim, so deserve everything they get. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/415 "2019-04-10T16:34:46Z")
Hasnā€™t Jimmy Carter, former President of the USA, and a complete elections geek in later life, declared Venezuelaā€™s elections as some of the most transparent and fair heā€™s ever seen? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/416 "2019-04-10T16:36:22Z")
Fuck off with your facts. Venezuela bad. Russkis there causing big trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:39 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/417 "2019-04-10T16:39:41Z")
Oi! Leave West Derby out of it. Nice and peaceful here mate, a nice place to live. Now Norris Green, thatā€™s another story. Should be twinned with Baghdad! ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 17:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/418 "2019-04-10T17:04:33Z")
Yes, his group and quite a few others. Not much mention in the msm for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 17:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/419 "2019-04-10T17:19:36Z")
Point of order, the Yanks would have to cross a few other borders to get into Bolivia the last time I looked on a map. Admittedly it was some time ago but I like to think Iā€™m not too geographically challengedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 17:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/420 "2019-04-10T17:35:47Z")
Most of them donā€™t own a passport either. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 18:00 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/421 "2019-04-10T18:00:59Z")
Itā€™s just over the road. I feel like Colonel Jessop from A Few Good Men šŸ™‚ Just joshing Noggaz. Please donā€™t shoot my house up. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 18:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/422 "2019-04-10T18:15:04Z")
West Derby/Norris Green, the same side of a coin. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 18:16 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/423 "2019-04-10T18:16:28Z")
So why is Venezuela skint and Norway one of the best places on Earth to live? Its not that theyā€™re both out of the EU is it? [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=20) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=22)