# 🇻🇪 Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2019 18:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/384 "2019-03-06T18:11:50Z")
The West would never fall prey to populism! (except when it does, repeatedly) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2019 18:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/385 "2019-03-06T18:13:49Z")
And lefty ‘populism’ is the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2019 20:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/386 "2019-03-06T20:11:55Z")
[https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1103384709160230912](https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1103384709160230912) [https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1103385000572014596](https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1103385000572014596) ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [10 March 2019 11:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/387 "2019-03-10T11:30:50Z")
Blimey- the BBC reporting this. A slight change of stance, despite the article still being anti the elected Government. > **[Maduro thanks army for defeating 'coup'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-47512386)** > > The Venezuelan leader's remarks came during a day of pro- and anti-government protests. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [13 March 2019 00:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/388 "2019-03-13T00:38:40Z")
> **[US regime-change blueprint proposed Venezuelan electricity blackouts as...](https://thegrayzone.com/2019/03/11/us-regime-change-blueprint-proposed-venezuelan-electricity-blackouts-as-watershed-event-for-galvanizing-public-unrest/)** > > The US-funded CANVAS organization that trained Juan Guaido and his allies produced a 2010 memo on exploiting electricity outages and urged the opposition "to take advantage of the situation...towards their needs" ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [13 March 2019 10:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/389 "2019-03-13T10:45:35Z")
I must admit i found it suspicious when Guaido said last week that Venezuelans would get electricity restored once Maduro steps down. Given statements by Bonkers Bolton and Pence over the past few weeks this has got the hands of the CIA all over it. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [19 March 2019 20:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/390 "2019-03-19T20:55:39Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [25 March 2019 21:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/391 "2019-03-25T21:28:55Z")
So a few questions for our pro-EU pro-democracy crowd. 1. Do you agree with the EU’s declaration that if fresh elections were not held, it would consider the self-declared Presidente _El Presidente_? 2. If not, what agency do you have to change this stance? 3. Also if not, did anyone ever ask you for your opinion on this unanimous stance? ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [25 March 2019 21:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/392 "2019-03-25T21:48:22Z")
> [@pap](#): > > So a few questions for our pro-EU pro-democracy crowd. Is this aimed at me? I’m a fence sitter, remember, looking down on either side 😊 Back to the questions. 1. Why not. If Venezuela keeps having elections at the present rate, it will be unarguably the most democratic county in the world and thus be able to dictate to all, the ways of democracy. A truly brilliant plan by the EU. 2. Who needs agengy when we have these self confessed geniuses in charge. Sit back and enjoy. 3. We are consumers. Our opinion doesn’t matter, because we are naive simpletons that play along with their games like nodding dogs,no matter how often they pull the same basic stunt. Always the same people in the background, with impeccable timing(and the same old plan). https://www.youtube.com/embed/00Ov9zbnhnY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [28 March 2019 23:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/393 "2019-03-28T23:23:19Z")
[![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/6/c/6c3a9172c3772b9df9f1bd7580608390fd849b20.jpeg "YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taaG5ZAf2vQ) ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [29 March 2019 18:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/394 "2019-03-29T18:35:15Z")
Ra Ra Vlad Putin Russia’s famous sex machine He sent aid to Venezuela’s poor Ra Ra Vlad Putin The fucker looks squeaky clean Compared to the cunts fomenting a war. [![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/b/2/b28974bbd519696a613fd2c59e5f59693e5268ef.jpeg "Russia Defies US Threats Over Venezuela") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MX_LS_NqQA) ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 08:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/395 "2019-04-10T08:23:43Z")
> **[If democratic socialism is so bad, why is Norway so great?](https://theweek.com/articles/783700/democratic-socialism-bad-why-norway-great?fbclid=IwAR1Vtzm14jjB7aqjtnBlsGgFb86W1OjeyAnJNr7Et5K9rQQ6x_FEh_fJums)** > > Norway is the most socialist country in the world. It's also a much better place to live than the United States. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 13:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/396 "2019-04-10T13:58:10Z")
Norway is so great that it’s cheaper to fly to Liverpool and go out on the piss than it is to get beered up in Oslo. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 14:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/397 "2019-04-10T14:26:48Z")
High tax economy, the way we should go. Norway shows nations how democracy should be done, it certainly pisses all over Venezuela’s version of democracy and socialism. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 15:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/398 "2019-04-10T15:27:23Z")
Hmmm, both have oil, so which to choose - cold country with lots of snow or hot country with the worlds most lightning strikes? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 15:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/399 "2019-04-10T15:58:08Z")
It just embarrasses Venezuela and their policies when you compare, the whole of Latin America’s democracy is tinpot. The West can’t be blamed for all of that. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 15:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/400 "2019-04-10T15:59:34Z")
Are Norway being sanctioned? ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/401 "2019-04-10T16:08:11Z")
Give it time! > **[Norway refuses to drill for billions of barrels of oil in Arctic, leaving...](https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/norway-oil-drilling-arctic-ban-labor-party-unions-a8861171.html)** > > Move exposes rift in Norway’s Labour party as climate change competes with union concerns Good to see a country standing up to the interests of the oil money men and big business and putting the environment first. No doubt WMDs will be discovered soon and the US will be along to ‘liberate’ them!:lou_smiley::lou_smiley: ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/402 "2019-04-10T16:14:02Z")
No why would they be? They’re a great nation. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 April 2019 16:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/403 "2019-04-10T16:15:04Z")
Yeah, it’s them Incas, Aztecs and fucking Mayans init? Unless you want to tell me something ridiculous, like they were all wiped out of cultural existence by Western imperialists. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=19) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=21)