# šŸ‡»šŸ‡Ŗ Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/22 "2019-01-24T19:43:09Z")
> [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > A major shareholder in a large cooperative. > **[Co-op savings stamps book 1970s | Childhood memories 70s, Childhood memories,...](https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/359443613988654302/)** > > Explore NouveauDecoBrutal's photos on Flickr. NouveauDecoBrutal has uploaded 7029 photos to Flickr. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/23 "2019-01-24T19:44:55Z")
Something like that but a turnover slightly larger than that. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/24 "2019-01-24T19:46:55Z")
Didnā€™t mean that. Most businesses operate without protesters outside. Why does theirs? ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/25 "2019-01-24T19:49:07Z")
> [@Barry-Sanchez](#): > > Something like that but a turnover slightly larger than that. What, more than Ā£9.5billion as per accounts for 2017? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:49 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/26 "2019-01-24T19:49:43Z")
Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/27 "2019-01-24T19:50:35Z")
Large company Iā€™d suppose. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/28 "2019-01-24T19:52:53Z")
Hmm. Sounds like sharp practice to me. Iā€™ll just leave it there with the air of dark unethical family secrets šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 19:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/29 "2019-01-24T19:55:28Z")
Nothing untoward or not that I know of, brother in law married into it and in turn invested in it. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 20:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/30 "2019-01-24T20:57:12Z")
Background: [![](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/8/2/8280b8103a424d0ce5bf42e42285a80684b12679.jpeg "Empire Files: Abby Martin in Venezuela - Supermarkets to Black Markets") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYWrPiUeWY) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [24 January 2019 23:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/31 "2019-01-24T23:15:23Z")
Not often I will watch a 20 min video posted on here. Recommend people watch it to get an understanding of the situation. One of the chavistas I met out in Venezuela in 2005 retweeted a Venezuelan declaring he was now president. Thereā€™s probably lots of them doing it. Why not? Can we maybe do the same? Who wants to be PM? ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [27 January 2019 13:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/32 "2019-01-27T13:19:13Z")
Same old story indeed! This has all the hallmarks of a CIA inspired coup. Beware of people pretending to be in Venezuela telling everyone how awful it is to be there under Maduro, when they are in fact living in another country altogether. > **[ā€œI live 5hr queues for breadā€. ā€œIā€™m living in cutest little apartment in...](https://skwawkbox.org/2019/01/25/i-live-5hr-queues-for-bread-im-living-in-cutest-little-apartment-in-paris-the-same-venezuelan/)** > > A mass propaganda campaign has begun since the US announced that Trump was recognising right-winger Juan Guaido as president of Venezuela and was keeping open the option of military intervention. Gā€¦ And Craig Murray has debunked the claim this self-appointed President is representing the starving masses. > **[The Vultures of Caracas - Craig Murray](https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/01/the-vultures-of-caracas/)** > > We are frequently told that people in Venezuela have no food, clothing or toilet paper, and that popular discontent with the left wing government is driven by real hunger. There are elements of truth in this story, though the causes of economic... Perhaps Maduro should demand that the UK call a general election within eight days to address itā€™s democratic deficit and the dictatorship maintained by a handful of Protestant fundamentalists. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 01:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/33 "2019-01-28T01:44:49Z")
Iā€™ve finally heard from a woman I met in Caracas in 2005 who is denouncing what we are seeing in the media about Venezuela. That it is another foreign government coup. That video @Goatboy posted also showed people seemingly getting on ok in life. ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 04:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/34 "2019-01-28T04:45:54Z")
Another lie debunked. > **[Hunt issues Maduro election ā€˜ultimatumā€™ ā€“ but Forbes called Venezuela...](https://skwawkbox.org/2019/01/26/hunt-issues-maduro-election-ultimatum-but-forbes-called-venezuela-elections-model-for-the-world/)** > > The Maduro government is far from perfect, but Venezuelaā€™s election systems are considered world-leading ā€“ when the country is not the target of Western regime-change plans and ā€˜eā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/35 "2019-01-28T06:17:53Z")
More tin foil hat sites will come up here in the next few days, why has 10% of the population left? (If believed?) and again if true why do they always go to the US? ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/36 "2019-01-28T06:20:09Z")
So you support this US backed coup? ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/37 "2019-01-28T06:21:39Z")
Mislead by Hollywood propaganda that everyone will get rich / famous maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:22 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/38 "2019-01-28T06:22:51Z")
Of course not but can you prove there is a US led coup? Anyone can post a tin foil website to prove anything from the earth is flat to Elvis lives amongst us, genuine proof, admission from someone in the Government would suffice. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/39 "2019-01-28T06:23:26Z")
Oh so they can believe a Hollywood film but be easily mislead by the newsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/40 "2019-01-28T06:27:00Z")
Apart from the US declaring a bloke who never even ran in the election President? And giving him millions of dollars to pay for hisā€™ interim governmentā€™ you mean? And Bolton warning against threats to their puppet you mean? Get a fucking grip lad. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/41 "2019-01-28T06:36:04Z")
> **[US sanctions are killing Venezuelans, says former UN rapporteur](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-us-sanctions-united-nations-oil-pdvsa-a8748201.html)** > > ā€˜Modern-day economic sanctions and blockades are comparable with medieval sieges of townsā€™ [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=3)