# 🇻🇪 Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 February 2019 15:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/364 "2019-02-10T15:31:25Z")
> **[The US is in direct contact with Venezuela's military and urging defections](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/us-urging-defections-venezuela-military)** > > The United States is holding direct communications with members of Venezuela's military urging them to abandon President Nicolas Maduro and is also preparing new sanctions aimed at increasing pressure on him, a senior White House official said. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [10 February 2019 18:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/365 "2019-02-10T18:08:17Z")
[https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1094396504700305408](https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1094396504700305408) ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [17 February 2019 20:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/366 "2019-02-17T20:19:09Z")
A whole week and nnd no comments. That’s surprising, seeing as a government that just won an election, by a majority that puts the warmongers to shame, is being slowly forced out of office by said undemocratic warmongers and their warfare against innocent civilians(the UN consider this one of the most heinous war crimes). What’s the long game, is it just about the Chavez Basin(yes your media lies when they call it the Orinoco Basin. It’s like they can’t accept sovereign nations changing the old name choices of murderers and slavers). Guayana Esequiba is probably the big goal and the dire need for diesel, the reason behind it. [https://m.journal-neo.org/2019/02/17/what-s-not-being-said-about-the-venezuela-oil-war/](https://m.journal-neo.org/2019/02/17/what-s-not-being-said-about-the-venezuela-oil-war/) ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [21 February 2019 11:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/367 "2019-02-21T11:19:18Z")
[https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1097631133938913280](https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/1097631133938913280) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2019 13:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/368 "2019-02-23T13:41:03Z")
Really good article. Describes what I saw on my brief visit to Caracas in 2005 and the positive impact of Chavez. [http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-war-on-venezuela-is-built-on-lies](http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-war-on-venezuela-is-built-on-lies) ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [23 February 2019 21:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/369 "2019-02-23T21:13:17Z")
Apologies if this is already on the thread. > ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2019 13:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/370 "2019-02-24T13:18:17Z")
[https://twitter.com/LOULOUGUINNESS/status/1099408282525958145](https://twitter.com/LOULOUGUINNESS/status/1099408282525958145) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2019 18:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/371 "2019-02-24T18:36:25Z")
Started following Venezuela hashtag on Instagram. All pro Guaido posts. Some have USA in their names. I saw a lot of the concert. ---
**Author:** ![Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nottarf-Krap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Nottarf-Krap)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2019 19:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/372 "2019-02-24T19:52:45Z")
Branson has blood on his hands. He will live to regret his pathetic ‘Live Aid’. A tool of Trump, ‘Bonkers’ Bolton and the rest of them. Whatever was he thinking of? Presumably he thought there was something in it for the ‘Branson Brand’, that is always his priority. Roger Waters absolutely owned him. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2019 19:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/373 "2019-02-24T19:58:20Z")
He’ll be given lots of health care contracts under the new regime? ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [24 February 2019 22:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/374 "2019-02-24T22:18:36Z")
And new landing rights ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [25 February 2019 19:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/375 "2019-02-25T19:11:08Z")
Agenda driven fake news exponent according to Barry. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [25 February 2019 20:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/376 "2019-02-25T20:32:30Z")
I’ve chucked this in here because it shows Britain is still imperialist on the quiet, looking to maintain the tatters of Empire & our duly elected Government are unfathomably looking for regime change in Venezuela (&elsewhere globally as we know) A lot of people in Government and the Civil Service need to be Twatted with a hefty bit of 2x4… > **[UK should end Chagos Islands control - UN](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47358602)** > > Mauritius says it was forced to give up the Indian Ocean islands in exchange for independence. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2019 19:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/377 "2019-02-26T19:03:38Z")
> **[Massive Protest in Support of the Bolivarian Revolution Largely Ignored](https://therealnews.com/stories/massive-protest-in-support-of-the-bolivarian-revolution-largely-ignored)** > > While the world’s attention was focused on the Venezuelan opposition, as it tried to transport US aid into Venezuela against the government’s will, a major protest took place in Caracas that was opposed to US intervention in Venezuela. ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2019 19:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/378 "2019-02-26T19:09:09Z")
All sounding and looking very familiar. [https://twitter.com/SoniaKatiMota/status/1100170014387253249](https://twitter.com/SoniaKatiMota/status/1100170014387253249) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2019 20:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/379 "2019-02-26T20:14:31Z")
I saw a photo briefly linked on a BBC article showing some of the military on the floor having allegedly surrendered. I wondered why they needed to be on floor with hands behind back if they were all cool with the Guaido guys. A bit later I thought I’d go back and have a look. That photo had gone. Odd. > **[Hands off Venezuela](https://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/)** > > We condemn without reservation the outrageous decision of the UK High Court to deny Venezuela access to 31 tonnes of gold deposited at the Bank of England. This decision can only be described as daylight robbery and an act of piracy. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2019 20:26 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/380 "2019-02-26T20:26:43Z")
I find it very interesting as to how folk are woke about propaganda these days. On balance, I think it’s a good thing, and a real thing. If people believed all the shit chatted about Venezuela and suchlike, alternate political views would not be possible. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 February 2019 20:38 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/381 "2019-02-26T20:38:53Z")
You mean woke as in this? > **[Urban Dictionary: woke](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=woke)** > > The act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue :lou_wink: ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [4 March 2019 18:53 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/382 "2019-03-04T18:53:57Z")
[https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1102572383519604741](https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1102572383519604741) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2019 18:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/383 "2019-03-06T18:09:46Z")
I think I see what they’re doing here. > **[Revealed: the rise and rise of populist rhetoric](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/mar/06/revealed-the-rise-and-rise-of-populist-rhetoric)** > > Major study analysing speeches of leaders from 40 countries over two decades shows surge in populism [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=18) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=20)