# 🇻🇪 Same old story in Venezuela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [4 August 2017 19:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526 "2017-08-04T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 10:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/264 "2019-02-06T10:20:00Z")
So you can’t answer, as it will show your hypocrisy. Unsurprising. Your second paragraph just shows up what you are. You keep trying to turn the conversation away from the anti democratic aggressors. Shame on you. Barry’s book. ![Dyjyx9rU8AAhrbF](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/2X/5/5346469d9ca26fa926f110c5ab299618af045024.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 10:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/265 "2019-02-06T10:25:36Z")
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**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 10:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/266 "2019-02-06T10:41:24Z")
Very honest of you Barry. When you take them down, please do explain democracy and who it applies to. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 12:03 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/267 "2019-02-06T12:03:29Z")
Democracy is very simple, when eligible people can vote in elections. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 12:12 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/268 "2019-02-06T12:12:14Z")
The Venezuelans did less than a year ago. 70% voted for the present government and 0% voted for the anti democratic puppet. Eligible people? That makes the US and UK undemocratic, as both have been denying people the vote. So Venezuela is a democracy and the warmongering western nations aren’t. Glad we’ve cleared that up 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 12:21 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/269 "2019-02-06T12:21:17Z")
Where have I disagreed on that? I’ve said if the people want a vote it should be given, nothing more nothing less. You support undemocratic systems so I’ll pass on your advocacy of Venezuela and their current institutions. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 12:39 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/270 "2019-02-06T12:39:56Z")
The people don’t want a vote, only the lying warmongers are saying that. A lot of people in this country want another vote about the EU. You back them? Nothing more, nothing less? Show me where i have backed undemocratic systems, or admit your making it up to suit your agenda(much like the warmongers you always favour). ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 12:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/271 "2019-02-06T12:52:13Z")
Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 13:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/272 "2019-02-06T13:35:52Z")
That’s not showing anything. Only proving your ridiculous obsession. Have a read of this this and ask yourself why you keep falling for it. > **[Venezuela Blitz – Part 1: Tyrants Don’t Have Free Elections](https://www.medialens.org/2019/venezuela-blitz-part-1-tyrants-dont-have-free-elections/)** > > In our new book, we describe a ‘Propaganda Blitz’ as a fast-moving campaign to persuade the public of the need for ‘action’ or ‘intervention’ furthering elite interests. Affecting great moral outrage, corporate media line up to insist that a... ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 15:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/273 "2019-02-06T15:25:30Z")
> **[If UK Media wrote about the UK like it does Latin America](https://www.brasilwire.com/if-uk-media-wrote-about-the-uk-like-it-does-latin-america/)** > > To view this content, you must be a member of Brasil Wire Patreon at $2 or more Unlock with PatreonAlready a qualifying Patreon member? Refresh to access this content. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 15:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/274 "2019-02-06T15:57:26Z")
I’d like to see that on the BBC. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:04 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/275 "2019-02-06T16:04:06Z")
I knew a Chilean once of German descent, sound bloke and a hit with the ladies, he loved Pincohet and the regime, said it made Chile rich, whether it did or didn’t I never argued as he was about 190cm and 95kg and not an ounce of fat on him, man I was in awe of that guy… ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/276 "2019-02-06T16:46:14Z")
Not sure this is particulalry relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/277 "2019-02-06T16:48:54Z")
That lad had the birds dripping off him I’ll tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/278 "2019-02-06T16:51:09Z")
Lovely. Shame they appeared to like men who liked Pinochet. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/279 "2019-02-06T16:51:35Z")
Barry’s coming out. Don’t hold him back 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 16:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/280 "2019-02-06T16:55:23Z")
It isn’t, you should know Baz by now :lou_wink: ---
**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [6 February 2019 17:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/281 "2019-02-06T17:29:56Z")
The ladies didn’t care about Pinochet I can assure you. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [7 February 2019 16:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/282 "2019-02-07T16:24:07Z")
This picture in a piece by William Hague, is hilarious 😂😂😂 [http://t.email3.telegraph.co.uk/r/?id=h6c7a2781,29afe2d5,29afe2e0&WT.mc\_id=e\_DM940667&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi\_Edi\_New\_nReg&utm\_source=email&utm\_medium=Edi\_Edi\_New\_nReg\_2019\_02\_07&utm\_campaign=DM940667](http://t.email3.telegraph.co.uk/r/?id=h6c7a2781,29afe2d5,29afe2e0&WT.mc_id=e_DM940667&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_Edi_New_nReg&utm_source=email&utm_medium=Edi_Edi_New_nReg_2019_02_07&utm_campaign=DM940667) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [7 February 2019 18:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526/283 "2019-02-07T18:44:17Z")
Oh sod off Hague. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=13) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/same-old-story-in-venezuela/526.md?page=15)