# :labour: 🌅 Red Dawn - Life Under Labour **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [11 July 2024 13:55 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989 "2024-07-11T13:55:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 09:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/21 "2024-07-13T09:13:59Z")
> **[Thousands of prisoners to be released early to ease overcrowding](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crg5vp0296eo)** > > Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood warns of a "total breakdown of law and order" unless action is taken. ![Screenshot_2024-07-13-10-14-42-46_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/4/0/4012575b10d9fe5bedd967fe9aeafb317bac5610.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 09:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/22 "2024-07-13T09:27:59Z")
Lets allow the criminals to go free to cut down on crime? What they should do is build more prisons and lock the fuckers up for longer Increase in building work and prison officer jobs and if they get Portugese women prison officers I am sure they will not be worried about being locked up longer. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 10:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/23 "2024-07-13T10:19:24Z")
To be fair this was on the cards when the Tories were in (Rishi quashed it because of voter unpopularity) Kier when to great lengths at PMQs to berate the govt about not releasing violent criminals Kier can’t seem to answer that question anymore ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 10:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/24 "2024-07-13T10:51:27Z")
When did any UK Government or for that matter, large corporate entity invest in that sort of infrastructure? ---
**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 12:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/25 "2024-07-13T12:11:09Z")
> [@PhilippineSaint](#): > > if they get Portugese women prison officers I am sure they will not be worried about being locked up longer. I am _still_ not posting that vid on here. 😡😡😄 ---
**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 12:39 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/26 "2024-07-13T12:39:20Z")
Starmer can’t be a proper football fan. 😡😡 Nobody celebrates their team scoring like this… [//discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/0/20262c13ce9e2f0f6f71e4a74b7762ba22cbbbc8.mp4](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/0/20262c13ce9e2f0f6f71e4a74b7762ba22cbbbc8.mp4) ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 19:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/27 "2024-07-13T19:29:01Z")
I may post it in your name, if you don’t….😉 Tbf because of the “adult interest” nature of said recording perhaps people should DM you…. ---
**Author:** ![scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@scotty](https://www.sotonians.com/u/scotty)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 21:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/28 "2024-07-13T21:28:26Z")
That’s exactly what I suggested, but our fellow users appear to be somewhat more conservative in their outlook than I had realised. 🤔😄😄 ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [13 July 2024 21:31 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/29 "2024-07-13T21:31:03Z")
> [@scotty](#): > > That’s exactly what I suggested, but our fellow users appear to be somewhat more conservative in their outlook than I had realised. 🤔😄😄 What…? ![IMG_0334](https://discourse-sotonians-uploads.s3.dualstack.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/c/3c844cd99820bf8d2f27bc7313b7e8a857475677.jpeg) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 09:10 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/30 "2024-07-14T09:10:41Z")
Interesting that James Timpson (the key cutting magnate) has been appointed Prison Minister He has probably rehabilitated more ex cons that the entire probation service put together ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 09:39 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/31 "2024-07-14T09:39:20Z")
Ed has had a busy week - he has busted pushed through a massive solar farm in Norfolk Dale Vince must be thinking his £5m was well spent if that’s how it’s going down ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 09:44 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/32 "2024-07-14T09:44:31Z")
It was inspired to put someone in a role that they might actually know something about. Good work Labour 👍 ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 09:51 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/33 "2024-07-14T09:51:58Z")
Yep - you would hope on the subject of criminals, Kier knows what he is talking about The key cutting skills will come in handy for the early release program 👍 ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/34 "2024-07-14T14:41:37Z")
I read a bit more on this - 10% (660 people) of the Timpsons workforce are ex cons - that’s an incredible number ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 15:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/35 "2024-07-14T15:13:15Z")
And everyone is treated well > **[Benefits - Timpson Group](https://www.timpson-group.co.uk/working-for-us/benefits/)** > > We pride ourselves on being an excellent company to work for. We believe that the benefits, training and support you will receive will be second to none. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [15 July 2024 18:56 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/36 "2024-07-15T18:56:44Z")
> **[Labour got more donations than other parties combined](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg3j131327yo)** > > The party raised over £9.5m during the general election, while others raised a combined £5.7m Interesting given the bundles of cash the Tories used to take for granted. Tory donors clearly saw the wind was changing. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [15 July 2024 19:33 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/37 "2024-07-15T19:33:28Z")
No point spaffing hard won ill gotten gains on lost causes Why do you think they are so rich in the first place ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [16 July 2024 19:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/38 "2024-07-16T19:34:21Z")
Not really Labour related but cor, in this day and age we’re still sticking to outdated / outmoded oaths - and the establishment will boot you out if you don’t kowtow - sad and pathetic, imho of course 🙄 > **[Anti-monarchy Labour MP has to retake oath after omitting part of it as protest](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/16/anti-monarchy-labour-mp-clive-lewis-has-to-retake-oath-after-omitting-part-of-it-as-protest)** > > Clive Lewis would have been at risk of a byelection if he did not pledge allegiance to ‘heirs and successors’ of the king ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [16 July 2024 19:40 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/39 "2024-07-16T19:40:28Z")
If you think about it, 95% of parliaments procedures are outdated - the ceremony and pomp etc. the early day motions, PMQs - what use does that serve, etc etc The issue is not so much that it is required by the king - more that it was enshrined in law made in another period and one that no one felt the need to change (not least because it kept sinn Fein out) ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [16 July 2024 19:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989/40 "2024-07-16T19:43:31Z")
Yep agreed - too many traditionalist hang on to those procedures as if the UK would fall apart without them. Need someone to rip it all up and start again - maybe move Parliament out of Westminster and let all of those who can’t adapt stay as employees of a retro theme park? [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989.md?page=1) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/red-dawn-life-under-labour/6989.md?page=3)