# :labour: New Old Labour in trouble **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [27 October 2015 09:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522 "2015-10-27T09:11:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 177
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [9 June 2019 15:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3523 "2019-06-09T15:13:09Z")
The Guardian is reporting today that Emily Thornberry is going to be reshuffled. She’s a good performer, so it is believed they’re trying to move her sideways, rather than out. They just don’t want her talking about a second referendum on national television all that much. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [10 June 2019 10:54 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3524 "2019-06-10T10:54:25Z")
Expecting Thornberry to keep her gob shut - good luck with that ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [10 June 2019 11:25 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3525 "2019-06-10T11:25:17Z")
As I said before, she’s a very capable performer. Her problem is that she spends too much of her time looking down her nose at people. Remember that the first time she hit the news was during Ed Miliband’s tenure. She bitched online about someone having an England flag in their garden and got pelters for it. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:01 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3526 "2019-06-25T21:01:30Z")
So this could be good news. During the recent Sotonians leadership meeting, @Goatboy and @saintbletch were discussing the Labour leadership. Bletch thinks it is unsalvageable. Unless there’s major movement in the Parliamentary Party, I am inclined to agree. Could this be that major movement? > **[Labour MPs in 'purge' fear as they are given two-week reselection deadline](https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/labour-mps-in-purge-fear-as-they-are-given-twoweek-reselection-deadline)** > > Labour MPs have been given two weeks to decide whether they want to stand at the next general election, sparking fears they could be "purged&q... ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:14 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3527 "2019-06-25T21:14:38Z")
What a bit like this, without the Nazi references? 😉 > **[Night of the Long Knives](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives)** > > The Night of the Long Knives (German: Nacht der langen Messer (help·info)), or the Röhm Purge, also called Operation Hummingbird (German: Unternehmen Kolibri), was a purge that took place in Nazi Germany from June 30 to July 2, 1934. Chancellor Adolf Hitler, urged on by Hermann Göring and Heinrich Himmler, ordered a series of political extrajudicial executions intended to consolidate his power and alleviate the concerns of the German military about the role of Ernst Röhm and the Sturmabteilung... ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:27 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3528 "2019-06-25T21:27:47Z")
Think murder is a bit strong, mate. A trigger ballot will do, like. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:30 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3529 "2019-06-25T21:30:08Z")
Well…😉 Ok the ballot then, if you must insist… ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3530 "2019-06-25T21:37:19Z")
Looks like the strategy might be working. This just in from the Skwawkbox. > **[Fitzpatrick declines to stand for reselection](https://skwawkbox.org/2019/06/25/one-down-fitzpatrick-declines-to-stand-for-reselection/)** > > Anti-Corbyn London MP becomes first to decline to stand, at least publicly Jim Fitzpatrick Jim Fitzpatrick, the Labour MP for Poplar and Limehouse constituency in London, has become the first Labou… ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3531 "2019-06-25T21:45:59Z")
Interesting Saw his picture, suited and booted and automatically thought “Tory”. Appearances can be deceptive. ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [25 June 2019 21:58 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3532 "2019-06-25T21:58:55Z")
wouldn’t it be easier if the blue team wore blue and the red team wore red? ---
**Author:** ![Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/polski_filip/32/75318_2.png) [@Polski\_Filip](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Polski_Filip)\ **Post date:** [26 June 2019 05:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3533 "2019-06-26T05:43:57Z")
Names & numbers on their backs. Would make it easier to aim your milkshakes/eggs ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 June 2019 07:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3534 "2019-06-26T07:02:44Z")
A bullseye would be better ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [26 June 2019 07:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3535 "2019-06-26T07:06:50Z")
Is moving Labour even further left the right way to go - sure there might be less dissension in the ranks of the PLP, but Brexit still remains a dividing factor and they still have to convince the public at large that they are not just a bunch of trots. ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [26 June 2019 11:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3536 "2019-06-26T11:20:21Z")
A message for Labour party members. > **[A Moment in History - Craig Murray](https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/06/a-moment-in-history/)** > > Sometimes we do not know when small actions could have the most momentous effects. The Archduke Franz Ferdinand loved his wife, which was most unusual for a Hapsburg. She was not of royal blood and strict protocol meant she could not appear in public... ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 15:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3537 "2019-06-28T15:45:08Z")
There’s a handy list for deselection in here. [http://www.labouragainstthewitchhunt.org/our-positions/we-welcome-chris-williamsons-reinstatement-now-use-trigger-ballots-to-get-rid-of-the-saboteurs/](http://www.labouragainstthewitchhunt.org/our-positions/we-welcome-chris-williamsons-reinstatement-now-use-trigger-ballots-to-get-rid-of-the-saboteurs/) ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 15:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3538 "2019-06-28T15:57:09Z")
Labour against the witch hunt hunting witches ---
**Author:** ![Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saint-or-sinner/32/64280_2.png) [@Saint-or-sinner](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Saint-or-sinner)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 16:09 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3539 "2019-06-28T16:09:09Z")
Say that after a few at the vibrant Forest 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [30 June 2019 15:57 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3540 "2019-06-30T15:57:17Z")
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**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [6 July 2019 16:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3541 "2019-07-06T16:13:02Z")
[https://twitter.com/arryTuttle/status/1082923983228620800](https://twitter.com/arryTuttle/status/1082923983228620800) ---
**Author:** ![Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/intiniki/32/9_2.png) [@Intiniki](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Intiniki)\ **Post date:** [8 July 2019 12:24 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/3542 "2019-07-08T12:24:49Z")
Kate Hoey not standing for Labour in next election. [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522.md?page=176) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522.md?page=178)