# :labour: New Old Labour in trouble **URL:** \ **Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\ **Created:** [27 October 2015 09:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522 "2015-10-27T09:11:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 135
**Author:** ![Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bathsaint/32/22_2.png) [@Bathsaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bathsaint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2682 "2017-12-06T19:32:02Z")
I’ve just read the Huffpost article about him. [http://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-gq-dylan-jones\_uk\_5a211ef3e4b0a02abe9023bd](http://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-gq-dylan-jones_uk_5a211ef3e4b0a02abe9023bd) [edit: can’t seem to post the link on my phone] he seemed to be simply reporting what his chaps at GQ had told him. Of course, there are a load of Papsters trying to read some sort of conspiracy into it but I don’t really see any evidence of that. Is what he said untrue? ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2683 "2017-12-06T19:34:32Z")
He is a non-believer and must be discredited. Stone the heretic. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2017 19:41 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2684 "2017-12-06T19:41:47Z")
Dylan Jones lied about his personal impressions of Corbyn while not actually being there. He wrote a fluff piece on Cameron to help get him elected. There’s a \_fair \_chance he \_might \_not be neutral on Corbyn. Have a listen to the caricature of the confused old geriatric being pointed to the next soundbite he paints. I’ve seen the bloke in person a couple of times. Young Adult #1 met him at a Labour youth conference. Neither of us came away with that impression. Dylan Jones invented his, so I guess in his own mind, he could be correct. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 10:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2685 "2017-12-07T10:45:30Z")
> **[Momentum faces election spending probe](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42264630)** > > The Electoral Commission is investigating Labour-backing Momentum over spending at the 2017 election. Tricky these electoral finance rules, aren’t they. ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 10:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2686 "2017-12-07T10:52:19Z")
I miss @chertsey-saint :lou_sad: ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 11:13 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2687 "2017-12-07T11:13:58Z")
He had a lot more tenacity than me for this kind of thing. I might lob the odd thing into the mix but then i get bored and go and scratch my balls or something ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 13:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2688 "2017-12-07T13:05:18Z")
Good luck with that. My experience of campaigning was individuals spending their own money to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 13:59 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2689 "2017-12-07T13:59:50Z")
Have the “owners” changed @chertsey-saint 's avatar?? ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 14:02 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2690 "2017-12-07T14:02:34Z")
Nah, he logged on. Perhaps he’s like Beetlejuice. ---
**Author:** ![BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/btripz/32/75839_2.png) [@BTripz](https://www.sotonians.com/u/BTripz)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 14:36 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2691 "2017-12-07T14:36:55Z")
One more go then, @chertsey-saint ---
**Author:** ![Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/goatboy/32/167_2.png) [@Goatboy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Goatboy)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 18:19 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2692 "2017-12-07T18:19:16Z")
Does Cherts still post on fiverweb? Anyone know if he’s alive? ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 19:11 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2693 "2017-12-07T19:11:09Z")
he upvoted someone on here maybe a week or 2 ago, fucking lurker, lurking about all lurkery. ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 19:23 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2694 "2017-12-07T19:23:28Z")
He didn’t upvote me the the miserable sod. He can rot in purgatory or lurkery until he does… ---
**Author:** ![gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/gavstar/32/86128_2.png) [@gavstar](https://www.sotonians.com/u/gavstar)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 19:48 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2695 "2017-12-07T19:48:30Z")
Brexit thread? ---
**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 20:08 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2696 "2017-12-07T20:08:00Z")
No one really leaves… they are just absored into the forum collective conciousness… ---
**Author:** ![Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cobham-saint/32/99252_2.png) [@Cobham-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Cobham-Saint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 20:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2697 "2017-12-07T20:43:57Z")
What like a hive mind, made up of the workers i.e. Those who can be arsed to post; the drones i.e. The lurkers who can’t be arsed to post & all presided over by a queen (for want of a better word) who is courted by a small number of potential “king bees” who want to inseminate the queen? ---
**Author:** ![Sfcsim](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sfcsim/32/88192_2.png) [@Sfcsim](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sfcsim)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 21:06 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2698 "2017-12-07T21:06:15Z")
I said this before, the Labour Party hard graft was done by labour members, with money for leaflets and other materials raised from members of the Labour Party in their own time. Door to door, night after night, because they know what they are doing is the right thing. Now I was offered leaflets to give out by a marketing company called Dor2dor, who I have done work for in the past, as I could pop my own company leaflets in with their material. These leaflets were Tory leaflets, paying a marketing company to distribute them for the party. So the tax payer were picking up the bill. £120 per 1,000 leaflets NATIONWIDE. Also do the Tory Party not have vaulenteers to do this? ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [7 December 2017 21:18 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2699 "2017-12-07T21:18:34Z")
Too busy earning millions printing leaflets for Labour volunteers to stuff through doors. ---
**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\ **Post date:** [9 December 2017 09:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2700 "2017-12-09T09:35:50Z")
The lack of youth support is the real structural problem for the Tories, especially as most of their voters are closer to mortality than the ones they cannot attract. I campaigned in a marginal on election day and we didn’t see a single Tory team. The only youth they’ll get are those that are wealthy, or those that find a home for their innate contrarianism. The Tories have previously benefited from excellent media, but elections are about getting the vote out, as Theresa May found to her cost, as will the next Tory that contests a general election. ---
**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\ **Post date:** [9 December 2017 09:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522/2701 "2017-12-09T09:45:15Z")
Hasn’t this always been the case. Unis have been a rich hunting ground for labour for as long as I can remember. Then they get into the real world and their attitudes change as the grow older and gain experience [Previous page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522.md?page=134) [Next page](https://www.sotonians.com/t/new-old-labour-in-trouble/1522.md?page=136)