# Naz Shah, is it true?

**URL:** <https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629>\
**Category:** Reasonably serious discussion\
**Created:** [21 August 2017 19:47 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629 "2017-08-21T19:47:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:15 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/41 "2017-08-22T12:15:15Z")

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With Ref to the fact that this is a ‘freedom of speech’ site… Its from the US but still sentiment works here equally as well… Barry please take heed…

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:20 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/42 "2017-08-22T12:20:00Z")

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I’m taking no lessons on moral judgement from someone who has a homophobic name that was given after a whip round, take your charity idea to children in need or unite? See if they like it?

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**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:28 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/43 "2017-08-22T12:28:22Z")

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:lou_is_a_flirt: I salute you for pointing out the error of our ways… and as you know it will be rectified shortly. However, you seem to have avoided the burnig question ast o why it took your brain 12months to make the connections and actually take the correct moral stance - you in effect endorsed it by continuing to post on a forum that was 'comfortable ’ with having a member use a homophobic name, and you sir remained silent throughout. …to your shame

As the saying goes, '‘evil prospers, when good men do nothing’, Why did you do nothing Barry? Why did you not criticise the name back in July 2017 or at any time the last 12 months? Were you too cowardly to stand up against your fellow posters? Or were you simply not giving a fuck until it suited your purpose? … You have now refused to answer this question at least 5 times, so we are all assuming its because you dont actually give a fuck, but its a convenient time to pretend to… :lou_lol:

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**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/44 "2017-08-22T12:29:31Z")

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I will support Barry boycotting this site in protest against it allowing homophobic usernames

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**Author:** ![Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/sadoldgit/32/44_2.png) [@Sadoldgit](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Sadoldgit)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/45 "2017-08-22T12:32:16Z")

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For God’s sake Barry, why don’t you take you faux outrage and shove it up your chutney ferret hole?

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**Author:** ![Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/map-of-tasmania/32/1298_2.png) [@Map-Of-Tasmania](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Map-Of-Tasmania)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:32 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/46 "2017-08-22T12:32:50Z")

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:lou_surprised:

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**Author:** ![PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/philippinesaint/32/3978_2.png) [@PhilippineSaint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/PhilippineSaint)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:37 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/47 "2017-08-22T12:37:15Z")

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That should be more of a :lou_is_a_flirt: chutters

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**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:50 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/48 "2017-08-22T12:50:44Z")

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Looks like “peanut weasel” could be the new favourite :lou_lol:

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**Author:** ![CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cb-saint/32/95251_2.png) [@CB-Saint](https://www.sotonians.com/u/CB-Saint)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 12:52 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/49 "2017-08-22T12:52:45Z")

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Wrong end - your eagerness, though, is commendable

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**Author:** ![Kingdom-Come](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/kingdom-come/32/58_2.png) [@Kingdom-Come](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Kingdom-Come)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 13:46 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/50 "2017-08-22T13:46:13Z")

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I know everyone loves telling Barry he’s a cunt but a quick check would verify that whoever controls naz shah’ s official Twitter account did like a tweet saying the abused girls of Rotherham should keep their mouths shut because of diversity.

[Link](https://twitter.com/Owen_Jones84/status/897555984373039104)

You can click on ‘likes’ to see who liked the tweet. Why they did remains unclear.

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**Author:** ![saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/saintbletch/32/618_2.png) [@saintbletch](https://www.sotonians.com/u/saintbletch)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 14:05 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/51 "2017-08-22T14:05:23Z")

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But Barry is still a cunt, right?

Edit: no offence.

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 14:07 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/52 "2017-08-22T14:07:32Z")

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Seems to me on face of it that the tweet was a sarcasm or irony. I would’ve upvote it too.

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**Author:** ![MrTrampoline](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/mrtrampoline/32/137_2.png) [@MrTrampoline](https://www.sotonians.com/u/MrTrampoline)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 14:17 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/53 "2017-08-22T14:17:33Z")

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Urrrgh I facepalm when I see this XKCD so much.

It totally, totally misses the point.

_"The first amendment is the “letter of the law”. The spirit of the law, something liberals and progressives use to proudly proclaim was their realm, is the idea that in public forums or places where the general public congregate, that the freedom to distribute ideas should not be hindered but that arguments should be judged on their own merits, that bad or hateful ideas should be argued down with reason and evidence. It is only through our mutual struggle against bad or hateful ideas that we as a civilization learn what the good and virtuous ideas are; because we have amassed cultural knowledge, evidence, and reason to support them._

_This is not just a U.S thing, this is a foundation of human rights._

_Places like Reddit and elsewhere get so hard when it comes to net neutrality and making the internet a public utility and want all the rights and privileges of being a public forum, but when it comes to shouldering the burden of being a public forum they like to pull the “well we’re TECHNICALLY a private company” card so they can have their cake and eat it too._

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**Author:** ![MrTrampoline](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/mrtrampoline/32/137_2.png) [@MrTrampoline](https://www.sotonians.com/u/MrTrampoline)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 14:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/54 "2017-08-22T14:43:06Z")

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At the end of the day; if you want to obstruct, boycott, no-platform, ban and censor, even from private spaces (where yes, of course you have the _right_ to do those things), it doesn’t take a genius to see that you’re clearly not particularly confident in putting across your side of the argument, and wish to silence your opposition.

Now, hey? Your attitude might well be “yes, I jolly well do want to do all of those things”, which is open and honest in fairness - trouble is, people will ask questions and they will get answers of _some_ kind - and in the days of the internet, those answers can range from the sinister to the repugnant - given a real degree of credibility to the mind of a typical 16-year old by the fact they’re silenced in public discourse.

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**Author:** ![pap](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/pap/32/74795_2.png) [@pap](https://www.sotonians.com/u/pap)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:29 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/55 "2017-08-22T15:29:21Z")

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Good work, Kingdom Come.

It was actually Barry’s work to do, but there you go.

Having reviewed the chain of tweets, it’s something of a stretch to arrive at the conclusion Barry has. It could be anything to misinterpretation, to a fat finger, to a shaming RT ( bringing attention to the original idiot ). They shouldn’t have to, but many Twitter accounts carry the disclaimer “retweets do not equal endorsement”.

For the record, Barry’s interpretation is that he thinks Naz Shah reckons rape victims should keep their traps shut if the diversity project is threatened in any way.

Do you think he considered \_any \_alternative before settling on that explanation?

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**Author:** ![Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/bearsy/32/6_2.png) [@Bearsy](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Bearsy)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:34 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/56 "2017-08-22T15:34:23Z")

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My current policy when hearing dumbasses talk shit, is to shrug shoulders & not adopt their views as my own. I feel that ought to be easier & more practical than trying to prevent dumbasses talking shit in the first place.

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**Author:** ![cellone](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/cellone/32/151_2.png) [@cellone](https://www.sotonians.com/u/cellone)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:35 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/57 "2017-08-22T15:35:20Z")

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Why don’t you post on saintsweb anymore Barry?

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:42 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/58 "2017-08-22T15:42:06Z")

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Barred, grassed up for telling yet another truth about Lallana the day after the player of year awards was choosing his wall colours in Woolton, Liverpool.people don’t like things they don’t like, selfish but that’s human nature, I have a little chuckle and carry on, they make me laugh and I’m happy here.

People don’t like hearing things they don’t like, selfish but that’s human nature, I have a little chuckle and carry on, they make me laugh and I’m happy here.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:43 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/59 "2017-08-22T15:43:52Z")

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No I just think you’re a self-righteous know it all but you’re actually a funny extra from Lord of the Rings, you’re ok Pap your heart is in the right place.

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**Author:** ![Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/user_avatar/www.sotonians.com/barry-sanchez/32/76_2.png) [@Barry-Sanchez](https://www.sotonians.com/u/Barry-Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [22 August 2017 15:45 UTC](https://www.sotonians.com/t/naz-shah-is-it-true/1629/60 "2017-08-22T15:45:37Z")

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Do I get any apologies from you lot?

Don’t bother, I’ll put it on the board, you can take your dislikes off though, no keep them on, a reminder of over zealous liberal bellendry.

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